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Old 03-01-2025, 09:38 AM
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Hegseth orders Cyber Command to stand down on Russia planning
https://therecord.media/hegseth-orde...ussia-planning

But our MAGAMoron friends assured us that Donny isn't a Russian agent...
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Old 03-01-2025, 09:58 AM
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Will NATO nations move against Russia's forces in Ukraine now? Better now than later? From a defensive standpoint could they keep Putin's Orcs on Russia's side of the border? Would Putin's stooge in the West interfere?

Three things the U.S. needs now.
Musk out of our government.
tRump/Musk out of our White House.
Putin out of Ukraine.
Ukraine with no particular Air Force has stalemated the Russians. With NATO Air Forces committed the Russian air units could not operate. Then NATO air and missile units could take out the Russian air defence units. Then the Russian land forces would be naked to air attack. The whole war changes decisively, in other words. Only fear and other base influences have kept this from happening so far.

As for interference by 'Putin's stooge,' if faced with such defeat Putin would of course demand it. There would doubtless be parts and munitions embargos on NATO, and sanctions even. Actual military intervention against our former NATO allies, however, would I hope be a bridge way too far for our armed forces.
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:17 AM
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The Hegseth unilateral cyber disarmament is just one dot in a big pattern. Rachel Maddow here gives us a bunch more dots. The way they connect up is very obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn9BTALjtLY&t=4s
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Old 03-01-2025, 11:22 AM
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Watching BBC yesterday and they had a story on European countries are considering if not already getting their own Nuke weapons. Not counting on the USA for support or deterrents.

Countries like Germany IIRC.
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Old 03-01-2025, 11:39 AM
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Poland is doubtless quietly exploring options.
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Old 03-01-2025, 01:24 PM
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Europeans left alone usually end up fighting each other.
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Europeans left alone usually end up fighting each other.
Actually, other than Russia and their Serbian buddies, they haven't in 80 years.
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Europeans left alone usually end up fighting each other.
President Biden united them to support Ukraine against Putin. Now in the face of tRump siding with Putin they have even more reason to support Ukraine.
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President Biden united them to support Ukraine against Putin. Now in the face of tRump siding with Putin they have even more reason to support Ukraine.
Tell that to the Poles. The Poles view swathes of Western Ukraine as Polish.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:10 PM
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This is how a real leader greets a hero like Zelenskyy.

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