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Old 11-26-2014, 02:12 PM
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So the people of Ferguson have to pay three times. Two riots and a lawsuit.

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Not to worry.

All they have to do is make sure they go to the polls and elect nothing but tax cutting Republicans.
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:15 PM
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So the people of Ferguson have to pay three times. Two riots and a lawsuit.

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Old 11-26-2014, 02:17 PM
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:19 PM
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:26 PM
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So the people of Ferguson have to pay three times. Two riots and a lawsuit.

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I'm not excusing arson and looting but the second round of rioting appears to be a calculated and possibly desired response due to the timing of the press conference. They had the decision ready and waiting in the morning so I'm wondering who's bright idea was it to delay that press conference until 8pm local time?
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:27 PM
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I'm not excusing arson and looting but the second round of rioting appears to be a calculated and possibly desired response due to the timing of the press conference. They had the decision ready and waiting in the morning so I'm wondering who's bright idea was it to delay that press conference until 8pm local time?
They should have waited until is was pouring rain. That said, I can't blame the looting and arson on the timing of the announcement.
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:28 PM
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Old 11-26-2014, 02:51 PM
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Actually, it is going to be the city and county of St. Louis that will bear most of the cost burden, and Ferguson will lose about thirty or forty businesses, either through burnout or fleeing the city.

We can all go on arguing whether Wilson was right or not, but the big picture says Wilson, Jackson, and their Ferguson police department were categorically and catastrophically wrong.

And I am especially pissed over the "fact" that the police had to leave Brown's body lay on the ground, uncovered, for four hours, and then learned yesterday the medical examiner did not take photos of the scene because he did not have batteries. But the primary reason they did not remove the body was to maintain the scene undisturbed to gather evidence. What winners!
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:08 PM
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Actually, it is going to be the city and county of St. Louis that will bear most of the cost burden, and Ferguson will lose about thirty or forty businesses, either through burnout or fleeing the city.

We can all go on arguing whether Wilson was right or not, but the big picture says Wilson, Jackson, and their Ferguson police department were categorically and catastrophically wrong.

And I am especially pissed over the "fact" that the police had to leave Brown's body lay on the ground, uncovered, for four hours, and then learned yesterday the medical examiner did not take photos of the scene because he did not have batteries. But the primary reason they did not remove the body was to maintain the scene undisturbed to gather evidence. What winners!
You don't indict people for "the big picture." That's what's fundamentally wrong with this whole case - people are conflating this (seemingly justified) shooting by a LEO with the decades of injustice suffered by African-Americans in this country. These injustices don't ipso facto confer guilt upon Wilson.
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Old 11-26-2014, 03:23 PM
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You have years of failed public policy re policing in the entire St. Louis area. You have multiple documented cases of police brutality and police abuses in north St. Louis county. You have increasingly bad relations while attempting to police the Ferguson "ghetto" over the past six years, including over 300 cases of filed police misconduct, every single one denied.

And then a member of your force kills a resident, and you let the body sit in the street for four hours without having the decency to cover his body or attend it with a modicum of decency.

And you have multiple respected residents who witness part to all of the deadly confrontation, and whose testimony is not given credence by a grand jury. You have the overall PA for the county unwilling to present the case and carefully ween the good testimony from the bad testimony, so it sounds like a cacophanous collection of idiot cats wailing re the residents' testimony, while presenting the cop's testimony as the gold standard voice of reason.

Maybe this is the reason why an eminently respected juriprudence professor at Harvard University spoke so sharply against McCulloch's conduct in this criminal investigation.
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