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12-02-2013, 08:31 PM
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Remember Ol' Grumpy McCain singin', "Bomb, bomb, bomb... bomb, bomb Iran" at the neo conservative crazies back in '08?
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12-02-2013, 09:06 PM
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Our attempts at using military force haven't worked out so well since WW2 either.
Now have they?
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Wasn't all that long ago that Obama was patting himself on the back about Osama.
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12-02-2013, 10:27 PM
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Wasn't all that long ago that Obama was patting himself on the back about Osama.
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Sour grapes?
Kinda funny how the Shrub and Darth Cheney couldn't get it done in two full terms.
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12-03-2013, 07:37 AM
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Sour grapes?
Kinda funny how the Shrub and Darth Cheney couldn't get it done in two full terms. 
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No sour grapes here. Kinda funny how folks forget that the intelligence assets on the ground had been building their networks and looking for Osama for years. In fact, the master plan for the strategy that eventually lead to finding Bin Laden was formulated by the CIA back in 2005.
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12-03-2013, 07:57 AM
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Wasn't all that long ago that Obama was patting himself on the back about Osama.
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Okay, so that's one that did go well.
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12-03-2013, 08:02 AM
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No sour grapes here. Kinda funny how folks forget that the intelligence assets on the ground had been building their networks and looking for Osama for years. In fact, the master plan for the strategy that eventually lead to finding Bin Laden was formulated by the CIA back in 2005.
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So, why wasn't it carried out, then?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200...uote-on/132078
Oh, THAT'S why.
"....he's the one who should be worried.". Yeah, George, but.......................
Just sayin'.
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12-03-2013, 08:19 AM
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No, that's not why. It actually was carried out. It still took years of tracking the movements of Bin Laden's courier before they ultimately found Bin Laden.
That MediaMatters site is fine as a source of comedy, but as a source for reliable info? Not so much.
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12-03-2013, 08:49 AM
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No sour grapes here. Kinda funny how folks forget that the intelligence assets on the ground had been building their networks and looking for Osama for years. In fact, the master plan for the strategy that eventually lead to finding Bin Laden was formulated by the CIA back in 2005.
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Was that the same CIA that dithered and dithered, then finally said launch too late when Bubba would have had bin Laden and we would have been saved a lot of grief.
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12-03-2013, 05:24 PM
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Was that the same CIA that dithered and dithered, then finally said launch too late when Bubba would have had bin Laden and we would have been saved a lot of grief. 
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Uh, no. That's nowhere even close to how that went down.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/30/national/30TERR.html
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12-03-2013, 07:29 PM
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If we didn't have a snitch in the ISI, I'll kiss your ass on Main Street.
I'll bet even Shrub knew where Bin Laden was. And I'll bet that the ONLY reason Obama took him out when he did was because he was afraid it would be leaked to the press.
I wouldn't even be surprised to find out that the US taxpayer financed his shit hole compound. He was contained, which didn't piss off the Arab Street nearly as much as killing him.
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