Obamacare Mandate May Be Delayed

[bobabode]

Read the same Wiki. Yup. Buncha neo con Reagan worshippers.

[whell]

Originally Posted by CarlV

Pioneer Institute huh? Wiki describes as non-partisan think tank but further reading shows only Libertarian beliefs.


Pioneer Institute is an independent, non-partisan, privately funded research organization
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The Institute also focuses on job and business creation; and limited and effective state and local government. Its "good government" efforts have included welfare reform, streamlining regulation, and the mass transit system; currently, its focuses are on public pensions, collective bargaining, public finance, and transparency of information.

Yep, pretty non-partisan.

Carl

Originally Posted by bobabode

Read the same Wiki. Yup. Buncha neo con Reagan worshippers.

Ah, yes. The old "Attack the messenger if you can't attack the message" dodge.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Ah, yes. The old "Attack the messenger if you can't attack the message" dodge.

Same old bs, Mike. You post up some far rightwing nutty publication as legitimate research and then piss and moan because no one is swallowing it?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Same old bs, Mike. You post up some far rightwing nutty publication as legitimate research and then piss and moan because no one is swallowing it?

Right. So the language I posted is lifted from the letter the state of MA sent to HHS (linked in the article). So, I guess you're suggesting that letter from the State of MA is " far rightwing (sic) nutty publication" too?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Exhibit A: If Obamacare and Romneycare were so much alike, then you'd expect that laying Obamacare over Romneycare when the former really starts to kick in on January 1, 2014 would cause barely a ripple in the Massachusetts medical insurance market. Yet, the State's own Insurance Commissioner and the Executive Director of Massachusetts Health Connector (the director of "RomneyCare") requested modification to key elements of Obamacare to avoid "extreme premium increases" for a "significant number of citizens in Massachusetts".

http://pioneerinstitute.org/healthca...ium-increases/

There's more, but we'll start with this.

Originally Posted by whell

Right. So the language I posted is lifted from the letter the state of MA sent to HHS (linked in the article). So, I guess you're suggesting that letter from the State of MA is " far rightwing (sic) nutty publication" too?

No, I'm saying that the conclusion you wrote is erroneous based upon the article that you read in a suspect source. Still parsing, I see.

[bobabode]

Whut's exhibit B? Dianne Barrette from Florida?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

Exhibit A: If Obamacare and Romneycare were so much alike, then you'd expect that laying Obamacare over Romneycare when the former really starts to kick in on January 1, 2014 would cause barely a ripple in the Massachusetts medical insurance market. Yet, the State's own Insurance Commissioner and the Executive Director of Massachusetts Health Connector (the director of "RomneyCare") requested modification to key elements of Obamacare to avoid "extreme premium increases" for a "significant number of citizens in Massachusetts".

http://pioneerinstitute.org/healthca...ium-increases/

There's more, but we'll start with this.

All I see there is a person predicts “Extreme Premium Increases.” For a particular class of purchaser. I'd like an overall look at actual premium changes as a basis of comparison.

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

All I see there is a person predicts “Extreme Premium Increases.” For a particular class of purchaser. I'd like an overall look at actual premium changes as a basis of comparison.

The "person" are actually persons. And not just any persons, but the head of the state insurance commission and the head of the state's Health Connector program.

[donquixote99]

Are any of these persons political appointees?

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Are any of these persons political appointees?

Yes. They work at the pleasure of the present governor Deval Patrick (D).