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Old 05-03-2013, 07:25 AM
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There is the problem. I believe right to protect oneself came long before there was any form of government. The government merely recognizes that right.
I was just making a point that this big government that everyone supposedly hates is also the source for their guns that some of them love so much.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:33 AM
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And that is why Madison came up with the 2nd - so that the southern slave owners could protect themselves in case of a rebellion by those slaves.
No matter why it is there, it is there. Don't like it? Change it. (I don't believe for a minute that is the only reason the 2nd exists.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:36 AM
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I was just making a point that this big government that everyone supposedly hates is also the source for their guns that some of them love so much.

I don't like certain things about this big government, other things I do like. The 2nd is one I do like.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:01 PM
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Join the national guard then.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:16 PM
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I don't like certain things about this big government, other things I do like. The 2nd is one I do like.
without the big government (you know, the one that sends out the SS checks) what are we?
Even so-called states rights exist because of the big government guaranteeing them.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:19 PM
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HENCEFORTH THE TERM BIG GOVERNMENT WILL REPLACE THE PHRASE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO MEMBERS OF THE TEA PARTY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN......

sorry I was shouting.......
joke don't take it personally
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:44 PM
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Reaganaut... or how about Reaganista?
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