Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Or maybe the best way us to be an asshole here.

All of us are people, and deserve some level of respect. No one here is breaking any laws, or burning buildings, so take that shit out with the garbage, please. Mike's stepfather is understandably distraught, said something in anger, and regrets it.

If my eleven year old was killed by a cop for no good reason, I fear, like a few other parents here, that it would be game on. As citizens, we have lost control of our police departments. There is a good reason citizen review boards have been impaneled.

In the bolded;

There is the third dimension to this unfortunate tragedy that isn't getting the mileage it should. The growing police state.

Shall we discuss THAT, Lady and Gentlemen?

Dave

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Your idea of due process is pretty much jungle rules, seems to me. Cutting down guys that cross the cops is OK, but getting pissid about is horrible? Your problem is you don't see that people you don't like have rights you are bound to respect.

I think that is fully as bad as stealing small cigars.

Stealing cigars isn't the issue. Serial assault on a storeowner and a cop is. Once he chose to escalate the situation by scuffling with a cop and going for his gun, he chose to enter a situation that could result in him getting shot. That's simply as it is and unfortunately must be.

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

In the bolded;

There is the third dimension to this unfortunate tragedy that isn't getting the mileage it should. The growing police state.

Shall we discuss THAT, Lady and Gentlemen?

Dave

That's indeed a worthy discussion. Conflating a two-bit hood getting shot while scuffling with a cop over his gun with the existence of a police state is a stretch, however. If the cops in this country had a relative certainty that thugs were generally unarmed (as is true in most other western industrialized nations), they would not be trained and armed as they are.

To be blunt, I don't really feel sorry for Michael Brown. He chose his fate by his own behavior. I feel sorry for his parents, notwithstanding their contributions to his this behavior. I probably feel most sorry for the cop. His life was threatened/ruined, at least temporarily, by a two-bit thug on a rampage.

[Oerets]

What we should all be afraid of now, is how it will effect the actions of the Police Officers into the future. Will it cause one to be killed second guessing his actions when confronted with someone will to do harm to him and others.


Goes back to a question we all grapple with, Better a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent be imprisoned?



Barney

[BlueStreak]

Barney,

Many folks these days, would tell you it isn't. They'd rather put a thousand and one in prison, even if one might be innocent.

Dave

[sheltiedave]

Finnbow, we don't need to conflate. There is a steady stream of black and white men going through the justice system, that are innocent. And a fair number being offed that don't deserve it. And many who don't have money being screwed by the system.

If we can't speak up for the least of our brothers, we are a sorry mess.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Finnbow, we don't need to conflate. There is a steady stream of black and white men going through the justice system, that are innocent. And a fair number being offed that don't deserve it. And many who don't have money being screwed by the system.

If we can't speak up for the least of our brothers, we are a sorry mess.

I don't dispute any of that. The question is whether it's relevant to the shooting in Ferguson. I contend it isn't directly related. Michael Brown is simply a poorly-chosen poster-child for legal or civil actions to combat police abuse of authority.

If you want to capitalize on a particular case to make your point, wait until an egregious and obvious case of police abuse presents itself. The racial-outrage community got ahead of themselves on this one. They went ape-shit (and dragged the media along with them), and when it become clear the Brown was a violent punk who caused, or at least contributed significantly to his own demise, they double-downed on their ill-informed and media-driven outrage.

[sheltiedave]

Well, here are McCulloch's other five footballs he has dropped. You can pick any of them, as well.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

You are undoubtably going to be right that Wilson will get off scot free, but he will never again be a badged, gun carrying law enforcement officer, and he will need to move out of Missouri and seek to become anonymous.

Looks like you called it right on the money sheltie.

http://www.ibtimes.com/ferguson-darr...r-says-1730394

Attorneys representing Darren Wilson, the white Ferguson, Mo., police officer at the center of a firestorm over the shooting death of black teenager Michael Brown, said he has accepted that his career in law enforcement is over, as reports surfaced Wilson is in talks to resign his post at the Ferguson Police Department.

“Realistically speaking, Darren will never be a police officer again, and he understands that,” lawyer Jim Towey told NBC News. “Going forward, it will be school and trying to carve out a new niche, new career, for he and his family.”

[ZeroJunk]

Yep, that hoodlum ruined a good man's life.

There was no point in that altercation up until the last second or so that Brown could not have stopped it. He chose not to. Natural selection at it's best.

[BlueStreak]

More interesting articles;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...984_story.html

http://newsrotator.com/go/bfcd029347...7e6b83bed8628/

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...get-scot-free/

Dave