18 and Dead.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by bobabode

This "new captain" is a Missouri Highway Patrol officer i.e. state police brought in temporarily by Gov. Jay Nixon. Are you championing racial quotas in the hiring of government employees?

I know exactly who the new Captain is. I stated early on that I have relative who's a Trooper in the Highway Patrol, and in fact he worked directly under the Captain for a number of years. Says he's an outstanding Trooper and was great to work for.
I didn't say anything about quotas. The Captain is from Ferguson, and my suggestion is that he may be able to provide insight into why more locals do not participate in the policing of their home neighborhoods.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

GC 6254 specifies exemptions in order to balance the individual's right to privacy with the public's need for information. Items that will most likely be redacted from Los Angeles Police Department public records are:

Identifying juvenile information
Identifying victim information associated with crimes to Penal Code Sections 261,264,264.1,273a,273d,286,288 or 289
Identifying confidential informant information
Criminal offender record information
Information that may endanger the safety of a witness or the other person
Information that may jeopardize an investigation, related investigation or law enforcement proceeding
Any portion of the report that reflects analysis, recommendation or conclusion of the investigating officer
Information that may disclose investigative techniques
Information that may deprive a person of a fair trial
Preliminary drafts, notes, or memorandums which are not retained in the ordinary course of business
Records pertaining to pending litigation to which the city is a party until the litigation is adjudicated or settled
Personnel, medical or similar files


It seems most of these exceptions apply in the Ferguson case. Above all, California law doesn't apply in Missouri.

Now that this case has taken on a life of its own, it's all the more important for authorities to get this right. If the cop is indeed guilty of something, releasing all sorts of preliminary info now will only jeopardize those trying to get an indictment or conviction. Relax and be patient. The truth will come out in due time and the facts will matter little to those who have already made up their minds in an effort to confirm their own biases.

I would think Missouri law is close. However, this case is different and probably requires the appropriate response. Anyway they could still release a redacted report.

[icenine]

The odd thing for me is if Brown's partner was willing to tell the truth about being in on the robbery, would he not also tell the truth if indeed Brown tried to wrestle away the gun from the cop. I think that is why I tend to agree with the other witnesses.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by icenine

The odd thing for me is if Brown's partner was willing to tell the truth about being in on the robbery, would he not also tell the truth if indeed Brown tried to wrestle away the gun from the cop. I think that is why I tend to agree with the other witnesses.

He was in the robbery. He was not in the car.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

The odd thing for me is if Brown's partner was willing to tell the truth about being in on the robbery, would he not also tell the truth if indeed Brown tried to wrestle away the gun from the cop. I think that is why I tend to agree with the other witnesses.

He was caught on camera in the robbery and not in the shooting incident. It's much easier to fabricate a story for which video evidence doesn't exist. I wouldn't bet a lot of money on the credibility of someone who robs convenience stores.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by icenine

The odd thing for me is if Brown's partner was willing to tell the truth about being in on the robbery, would he not also tell the truth if indeed Brown tried to wrestle away the gun from the cop. I think that is why I tend to agree with the other witnesses.

He had little choice with the vid as evidence, without it here it just might be 'cover my ass' time. Anything further on the physical cdx of the officer re being possibly attacked/suckerpunched by the suspect yet?

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[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

I know exactly who the new Captain is. I stated early on that I have relative who's a Trooper in the Highway Patrol, and in fact he worked directly under the Captain for a number of years. Says he's an outstanding Trooper and was great to work for.
I didn't say anything about quotas. The Captain is from Ferguson, and my suggestion is that he may be able to provide insight into why more locals do not participate in the policing of their home neighborhoods.

In the case of Ferguson maybe it's because the town only became 2/3 black in recent years. 2000 census it was equally split.

So, how would the ratio of black officers climb to anything remotely resembling parity without some sort of affirmative action that the right decries at every step?

Pardon me if I caught a whiff of Bull Conner in your previous post Was.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by bobabode

In the case of Ferguson maybe it's because the town only became 2/3 black in recent years. 2000 census it was equally split.

So, how would the ratio of black officers climb to anything remotely resembling parity without some sort of affirmative action that the right decries at every step?

Pardon me if I caught a whiff of Bull Conner in your previous post Was.

Mebbe less Bull Connor than in over his head and out-of-touch with the community.


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[nailer]

Originally Posted by icenine

The odd thing for me is if Brown's partner was willing to tell the truth about being in on the robbery, would he not also tell the truth if indeed Brown tried to wrestle away the gun from the cop. I think that is why I tend to agree with the other witnesses.

That would make him a rat and traitor.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

There is nothing ideological about it. We have not been presented with the official version and the ballistic report. If it showed that Wilson acted correctly (and maybe he did) then why not release all the information.

I think there's plenty ideological about the automatic insistence that white cops areb assassins of black children or that black children are gang bangers.