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06-25-2016, 02:06 PM
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I read the whole thing and nowhere in that AP article does it say that Clinton's server was hacked. 
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I never said definitively that it was hacked. I said it was likely that it had been.
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The emails, reviewed by The Associated Press, show that State Department technical staff disabled software on their systems intended to block phishing emails that could deliver dangerous viruses. They were trying urgently to resolve delivery problems with emails sent from Clinton's private server."
"Abedin and Clinton, who both used Clinton's private server, had complained that emails each sent to State Department employees were not being reliably received.
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Why? Perhaps because they were being intercepted, diverted to a hacker's server and then forwarded to the original addressee and some never arrived.
The fact that State turned off their security during the investigation means they might have been hacked while the security was disabled.
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Days after the technical crisis, on Jan. 9, 2011, an IT worker was forced to shut down Clinton's server because he believed "someone was trying to hack us." Later that day, he wrote, "We were attacked again so I shut (the server) down for a few min." It was one of several occasions when email access to Clinton's BlackBerry smartphone was disrupted because her private server was down, according to the documents.
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Proof that the existence of Clinton's server was know to hackers and that some attempts were made to breach her security. Two attempt were caught but how many were made? Were any of those successful? It doesn't seem likely that the hackers stopped after two attempts.
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Clinton has repeatedly denied there is any evidence her private email server ever was breached. Her campaign did not immediately provide comment Wednesday.
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In other words, she lied, just like she lied when she said her private server had been cleared by the State Department.
Hillary Clinton is too reckless and too arrogant to be president. A less reckless and arrogant person would nave never run for president with all this shit swirling around her head and a less arrogant person would withdraw now so as to avoid handing the election to Trump on a silver platter.
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06-25-2016, 02:17 PM
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Emailgate is still a nothingburger cooked up by an arch RW organization, Judicial Watch. Always has been and always will be. Believe what you want but Sanders isn't the nominee and he never will be.
Sorry your guy lost John but the voters have spoken. Time to move on, I sure have.
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06-25-2016, 02:26 PM
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Emailgate is still a nothingburger cooked up by an arch RW organization, Judicial Watch. Always has been and always will be. Believe what you want but Sanders isn't the nominee and he never will be.
Sorry your guy lost John but the voters have spoken. Time to move on, I sure have.
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This isn't about Bernie and it isn't about Judicial Watch. It's about Hillary's incompetence born of her arrogance and megalomania. The emails mentioned in the story were obtained from the State department through a FOIA request and made available to the AP. The article reflects the contents of those official State Department emails, not right wing spin.
This is the 2016 version of the October Surprise.
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06-25-2016, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Emailgate is still a nothingburger cooked up by an arch RW organization, Judicial Watch. Always has been and always will be. Believe what you want but Sanders isn't the nominee and he never will be.
Sorry your guy lost John but the voters have spoken. Time to move on, I sure have.
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Email nothingburger, the investigation continues, so dream on. And the Justice Department is still actively investigating.
Sanders is not the nominee, neither is Hillary.
When you use the term voters, you need to use the word in a very narrow sense of the word. Hillary is still shunned by 50%+ of the American electorate.
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06-25-2016, 02:43 PM
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Townhall tipsheet is a Tea Party organization, Tom.
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You are beginning to sound like whell, shoot the messenger instead of vetting the message. So here from a national news service.
Democrats Reject Platform Proposal Opposing Trade Deal
We all know who the Trade Deal helps, Hillary has come through again
Actually the $15 minimum wage was voted down without saying so.
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Reflecting Sanders' advocacy, the platform also calls for the expansion of Social Security and says Americans should earn at least a $15 an hour, referring to the current minimum wage of $7.25 an hour as a "starvation wage," a phrase the Vermont senator often uses. Sanders has pushed for a $15-an-hour minimum wage, while Clinton has supported efforts to raise the minimum wage to that level but has said states and cities should raise the bar as high as possible.
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That's a no in politics.
Now for the Clinton doublespeak.
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Sanders' allies wanted the draft to specify that the $15 minimum wage should be indexed with inflation. But Clinton's side struck down the amendment, noting that the document already included a call to "raise and index the minimum wage."
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I suspect that the average Bernie supporter is probably better informed and smarter than the Clintonistas, since they do not seem to be able to decipher the doublespeak. I don't see how a Bernie supporter can ever trust that WOE and bring themselves up to vote for her.
The dumbass Hillary campaign will claim she is for raising the minimum wage and her bots will lap it up and send her thank you notes.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...tform-40107459
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06-25-2016, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
This isn't about Bernie and it isn't about Judicial Watch. It's about Hillary's incompetence born of her arrogance and megalomania. The emails mentioned in the story were obtained from the State department through a FOIA request and made available to the AP. The article reflects the contents of those official State Department emails, not right wing spin.
This is the 2016 version of the October Surprise.
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I read the article three times to see what has you so spun up about it and I'm still scratching my head.
It reads like a retraction of their Weds. story that insisted Clinton turned off the security software on her server, which she didn't.
Sorry, I still think this is much ado about nothing. YMMV.
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06-25-2016, 02:48 PM
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Email nothingburger, the investigation continues, so dream on. And the Justice Department is still actively investigating.
Sanders is not the nominee, neither is Hillary.
When you use the term voters, you need to use the word in a very narrow sense of the word. Hillary is still shunned by 50%+ of the American electorate. 
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
You are beginning to sound like whell, shoot the messenger instead of vetting the message. So here from a national news service.
Democrats Reject Platform Proposal Opposing Trade Deal
We all know who the Trade Deal helps, Hillary has come through again
Actually the $15 minimum wage was voted down without saying so.
That's a no in politics.
Now for the Clinton doublespeak.
I suspect that the average Bernie supporter is probably better informed and smarter than the Clintonistas, since they do not seem to be able to decipher the doublespeak. I don't see how a Bernie supporter can ever trust that WOE and bring themselves up to vote for her.
The dumbass Hillary campaign will claim she is for raising the minimum wage and her bots will lap it up and send her thank you notes.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...tform-40107459
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Yadda, yadda, yadda. Take your personal insults and shove 'em, Raj.
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06-25-2016, 03:13 PM
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I read the article three times to see what has you so spun up about it and I'm still scratching my head.
It reads like a retraction of their Weds. story that insisted Clinton turned off the security software on her server, which she didn't.
Sorry, I still think this is much ado about nothing. YMMV.
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If you don't see the implications of these emails and the possible (probable) impact on our national security, I can't help you.
And, according to the story, the State Department did turn the security off the security on their system to try to find out why emails sent from Hillary's unauthorized and previously attacked server weren't reaching them.
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The AP initially reported Wednesday that the emails described security features being turned off on Clinton's own private server, but State Department spokesman John Kirby clarified hours later that the emails described "a series of troubleshooting measures to the department's system — not Secretary Clinton's system — to attempt to remedy the problem."
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To my mind that's a good deal more troubling than if Hillary had disabled hers.
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06-25-2016, 03:38 PM
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06-25-2016, 05:57 PM
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Poll Shows Hillary's Outreach To Bernie Voters Is Failing Miserably
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