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04-12-2015, 08:28 PM
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Hillary is a long shot to me. Way too much baggage, way too much Hillary fatigue. Her shot was 8 years ago and Obie bumped her. I can't see her being elected now. If she gets the Dem nod, we are looking at a bagger appeaser in the white house.
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I really hope you're wrong, Ed. That link IceNine posted above is a good read.
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04-12-2015, 08:30 PM
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When you've figured out how to short sheet a sleeping bag let me know.
I'm from northern Maryland, not southern. 
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Friggin' Yankee...
Good ol' Army surplus 'mummy bags' out here in Calitucky.
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04-13-2015, 07:32 AM
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Despicable little weasel dick, isn't he.
Check out this crapola from Reince Priebus.
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Guys they are Republicans what in hell did you expect?
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04-13-2015, 07:42 AM
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The Cruz video is a hoot. Hillary "....represents the failed policies of the past.".
Hillary worked in the Bush administration?
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04-13-2015, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
Hillary is a long shot to me. Way too much baggage, way too much Hillary fatigue. Her shot was 8 years ago and Obie bumped her. I can't see her being elected now. If she gets the Dem nod, we are looking at a bagger appeaser in the white house.
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Both nominations are sewed up.
She'll be running against Jeb Bush.
Any Hillary fatigue will be cancelled out and then some by Bush fatigue.
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04-13-2015, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Both nominations are sewed up.
She'll be running against Jeb Bush.
Any Hillary fatigue will be cancelled out and then some by Bush fatigue.
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Saying so don't make it so. There is a lot of time and the Hillary fatigue can also mean that not too many people (like me  ) will go out and actually cast a vote, and that will help Bush, not necessarily due to his own popularity.
Obama, at least for the first term, energized the Dem base. Hillary just does not have that charisma or oratory skills. Just my opinion to counter your optimism.
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04-13-2015, 11:32 AM
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Hilary doesn't have charisma or oratory skills???
What kind of crazy talk is that!!!???
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04-13-2015, 11:42 AM
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Not voting at all is the same as a vote for Shrub 3.0 Rajoo.
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04-13-2015, 11:45 AM
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Hilary doesn't have charisma or oratory skills???
What kind of crazy talk is that!!!???
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So why did she lose the nomination to Obama in 2008 since she claimed to be better prepared to be president (married to one  ) and Obama had very few qualifications?
I am sure though that she can and will energize a lot of women in this country this time.
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04-13-2015, 11:52 AM
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Not voting at all is the same as a vote for Shrub 3.0 Rajoo. 
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I will vote for her Bob but not with any great enthusiasm. But I predict there are great many others (centrists like me) that will not. Getting out the vote is going to be her biggest problem and news this morning is that her campaign is going to be modeled after Obama's including some of his top people.
Besides as you know, my vote will have no impact due to our electoral college system. So we are back to FL, VA, PA, MI, OH........... deciding who gets the WH.
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