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What's fucking crazy, and fun BTW, is when we rant and rave about/against who we are.
What the hell is factual research data? Talk about oxymoronic. Get with it, it's all relative. Ask Einstein. For some more confusion about what reality really is go talk to Heisenberg and Bohr. That's science, this other thing we call Science is a belief system.
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Einstein and our much beloved/bemoaned bomb. 
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"The half-life of glyphosate in soil ranges between 2 and 197 days; a typical field half-life of 47 days has been suggested. Soil and climate conditions affect glyphosate's persistence in soil. The median half-life of glyphosate in water varies from a few to 91 days."
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OK. Half-life being what it is, if we take the high end of that range, we've got something between 1/32 and 1/64 of the glyphosate left after three years. Such fractions might be nothing, or dangerous. Depends on how much there was to begin with, and how toxic the stuff is.
The dose makes the poison.
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04-07-2015, 09:14 AM
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^^^
I think this is a key to understanding, reestablishing and maintaining our soil's health.
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04-07-2015, 09:23 AM
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Half-life of radioactive substances undergoing nuclear decay is much more regular than clockwork. 'Half-life' of some chemical in the soil, decaying due to chemical reactions that happen or not depending on conditions, varies wildly, so much that the concept of 'half-life' seems fairly useless to me in this context.
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04-07-2015, 09:30 AM
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What's fucking crazy, and fun BTW, is when we rant and rave about/against who we are.
What the hell is factual research data? Talk about oxymoronic. Get with it, it's all relative. Ask Einstein. For some more confusion about what reality really is go talk to Heisenberg and Bohr. That's science, this other thing we call Science is a belief system.
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Perhaps I'm oxymoronic. More likely you don't understand the difference between scientific method and moronic TeeVee, Talk Radio, and Blogosphere anti-science tongue wagging. It's not all relative, get real.
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OK. Half-life being what it is, if we take the high end of that range, we've got something between 1/32 and 1/64 of the glyphosate left after three years. Such fractions might be nothing, or dangerous. Depends on how much there was to begin with, and how toxic the stuff is.
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Absolutely. Most of the problems we have are due to unrestricted use of stuff that might otherwise be just peachy and helpful. Wow, who knew that if instead of diluting the Roundup purple top super-concentrate per the instructions provided, it will kill everything in 30 seconds if I just dump a few bottles straight on my interlocking paver driveway. We're Americans, we got plenty of money...we're rugged individualistas...we don't got to follow no stinking directions.
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04-07-2015, 09:42 AM
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Perhaps I'm oxymoronic. More likely you don't understand the difference between scientific method and moronic TeeVee, Talk Radio, and Blogosphere anti-science tongue wagging. It's not all relative, get real.
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Thinking on it, I'd say being human is to be oxymoronic.
Everything is relative/subjective.
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Thinking on it, I'd say being human is to be oxymoronic.
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Bullshit. Everything is opinion. But there's a continuum of the quality of opinion.
Opinion based on appropriately structured scientific method is on one end of the continuum. Opinion based on moronic religiosity, ignorance, and self-indulgence is on the other stupid end.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/d...s-off-my-food/
The guy is right...we're just the other side of the anti-climate change/creationism coin. Now that's fucking pathetic.
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