Ryan's Budget and the debt limit

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

I love you too, Noone, however blinded by your own prejudices you might be.

lol, that;s a little ironic since that is what I have been trying to pull you out of.

I know a women who does the same thing. Everyone of her short comings she projects right back.

She does same as you, when she is at a loss for a reasoned reply.


Obviously she is impossible to speak with.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Clearly, that is exactly what he is saying. I say we start with yours.

So, just to recap, what you're saying is, those of us with some money should drive up property value as far as we can so our investments are worth more and people who can't afford the high prices should be bussed to the desert without food or water and left to die of exposure. Is that right? If Jesus wants them to survive he’ll provide manna from heaven.

It’s good to know we’ve firmly established that any idea has to be taken to the most absurd extreme imaginable. We don’t want common sense rearing its ugly head.

Shoot, why should I have to pay to bus poor people to the desert? Let’s just shoot them. But wait until after they’re born. We don’t want to commit abortion. No, much better to whack them after they come out. That’s the Christian way.

This is so awesome, I may just have it tattooed to my body somewhere.

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Clearly, that is exactly what he is saying.

It must be. He's yet to suggest that I got it wrong.

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

So, just to recap, what you're saying is, those of us with some money should drive up property value as far as we can so our investments are worth more and people who can't afford the high prices should be bussed to the desert without food or water and left to die of exposure. Is that right? If Jesus wants them to survive he’ll provide manna from heaven.

Oh, yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Whose the "we" you mention above that can mysteriously drive up property values. The "we" must have been out to lunch over the last couple of years while the housing market tanked.

But wait, you MUST mean that the devaluation of the housing market is a good thing because it really screws the "we" who have money, and keeps "we" from having to bus folks to the desert, 'cus they'll be able to afford houses! I get it now! Thanks for explaining to to me....or "we"....or whoever...

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by whell

Oh, yeah. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Hey, whell. I got one for you:

i·ro·ny1    /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/
[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]

–noun, plural -nies.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature .
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony.
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.
Use irony in a Sentence
See images of irony
Search irony on the Web

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Origin:
1495–1505; < Latin īrōnīa < Greek eirōneía dissimulation, sarcasm, understatement, equivalent to eírōn a dissembler + -eia -y3


—Synonyms
1, 2. Irony, sarcasm, satire indicate mockery of something or someone. The essential feature of irony is the indirect presentation of a contradiction between an action or expression and the context in which it occurs. In the figure of speech, emphasis is placed on the opposition between the literal and intended meaning of a statement; one thing is said and its opposite implied, as in the comment, “Beautiful weather, isn't it?” made when it is raining or nasty. Ironic literature exploits, in addition to the rhetorical figure, such devices as character development, situation, and plot to stress the paradoxical nature of reality or the contrast between an ideal and actual condition, set of circumstances, etc., frequently in such a way as to stress the absurdity present in the contradiction between substance and form. Irony differs from sarcasm in greater subtlety and wit. In sarcasm ridicule or mockery is used harshly, often crudely and contemptuously, for destructive purposes. It may be used in an indirect manner, and have the form of irony, as in “What a fine musician you turned out to be!” or it may be used in the form of a direct statement, “You couldn't play one piece correctly if you had two assistants.” The distinctive quality of sarcasm is present in the spoken word and manifested chiefly by vocal inflection, whereas satire and irony, arising originally as literary and rhetorical forms, are exhibited in the organization or structuring of either language or literary material. Satire usually implies the use of irony or sarcasm for censorious or critical purposes and is often directed at public figures or institutions, conventional behavior, political situations, etc.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Hey, whell. I got one for you:

i·ro·ny1    /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/
[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]

–noun, plural -nies.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature .
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony.
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.
Use irony in a Sentence
See images of irony
Search irony on the Web

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Origin:
1495–1505; < Latin īrōnīa < Greek eirōneía dissimulation, sarcasm, understatement, equivalent to eírōn a dissembler + -eia -y3


—Synonyms
1, 2. Irony, sarcasm, satire indicate mockery of something or someone. The essential feature of irony is the indirect presentation of a contradiction between an action or expression and the context in which it occurs. In the figure of speech, emphasis is placed on the opposition between the literal and intended meaning of a statement; one thing is said and its opposite implied, as in the comment, “Beautiful weather, isn't it?” made when it is raining or nasty. Ironic literature exploits, in addition to the rhetorical figure, such devices as character development, situation, and plot to stress the paradoxical nature of reality or the contrast between an ideal and actual condition, set of circumstances, etc., frequently in such a way as to stress the absurdity present in the contradiction between substance and form. Irony differs from sarcasm in greater subtlety and wit. In sarcasm ridicule or mockery is used harshly, often crudely and contemptuously, for destructive purposes. It may be used in an indirect manner, and have the form of irony, as in “What a fine musician you turned out to be!” or it may be used in the form of a direct statement, “You couldn't play one piece correctly if you had two assistants.” The distinctive quality of sarcasm is present in the spoken word and manifested chiefly by vocal inflection, whereas satire and irony, arising originally as literary and rhetorical forms, are exhibited in the organization or structuring of either language or literary material. Satire usually implies the use of irony or sarcasm for censorious or critical purposes and is often directed at public figures or institutions, conventional behavior, political situations, etc.

Hey Eddie. I got it. Note the ironic reply that I came back with. I might be guilty of not using smileys to punctuate the ironic statement, however.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

Note the ironic reply that I came back with. .

now that is ironic

[Fast_Eddie]

Something "ronic" to be sure.

[finnbow]

Dubya's Treasury Secretary, Paul O'Neill called Republicans who threaten not to extend the debt ceiling "our version of al Qaeda terrorists."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...n-debt-ceiling

Just how can these GOP doofuses on the Hill sit by idly during Dubya's administration, start two wars, cut taxes, institute a Medicare drug benefit, pay tremendous subsidies to Big Oil and Agriculture, and then throw a hissy fit when they get sent the bill for their actions? Ya think that'll work when my Visa Card bill comes at the end of the month?

[merrylander]

It now seems we have a few dumbass Dems saying they will vote aginst raising the ceiling unless there are big cuts in spending - three guesses what will get cut, certainly not their salaries or CheneyCare.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Dubya's Treasury Secretary, Paul O'Neill called Republicans who threaten not to extend the debt ceiling "our version of al Qaeda terrorists."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...n-debt-ceiling

Just how can these GOP doofuses on the Hill sit by idly during Dubya's administration, start two wars, cut taxes, institute a Medicare drug benefit, pay tremendous subsidies to Big Oil and Agriculture, and then throw a hissy fit when they get sent the bill for their actions? Ya think that'll work when my Visa Card bill comes at the end of the month?

It's like a husband who buys a sports car, a ski boat, and a camper on credit and then tells his wife that they need to cut back on the household budget because their debt load is too high.

Regards,

D-Ray