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Old 08-29-2015, 10:43 AM
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That would be easy to do unless Trump rolls in with a majority of delegates.
IF he did get into the convention with a big chunk of supporters and was somehow neutralized it would cause a big negative reaction among the base.
Still good news for Hillary.

You have to remember that the RNC cannot stop Trump....perhaps the Koch Brothers can but they would alienate many of the rabid right wing.

I hate Trump because he is trying to mix some progressive views with what can only be seen as racism....constantly blaming one segment of the nation's population for problems that quite frankly are not their fault at all. Germany did that back in the 1930s. If anyone thinks I am hyperbolic just listen to him.
You aren't hyperbolic.

Watch for the street militia. Suppressing the Hispanic vote will be essential. This effort will radicalize the Hispanics, and the resulting violence will justify more.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:53 AM
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This exactly what seems to be happening. Jeb is signing party delegates quietly, especially the ones that supported Bush1 and Bush2.

Slipping in polls, Jeb Bush pushes to rack up establishment endorsements

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...74b_story.html

Interesting that people from both parties are not happy with their anointed selections.
Jeb feels he is entitled to the Presidency.

"My daddy was President!"

My Big brother was President!"

And now it's MY TURN GODDAMMITT!

You have to give it to me!

I am going to kick and scream and hold my breath until I turn blue.

So you better give it to me!
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:59 AM
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And that would likely cause an irreconcilable split between the GOP establishment and the Tea Party/Angry Old White Faction and the establishment's more electable candidate wouldn't get elected.
I believe the Party elites would rather have a Democrat than someone they can't control.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:00 PM
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Jeb feels he is entitled to the Presidency.

"My daddy was President!"

My Big brother was President!"

And now it's MY TURN GODDAMMITT!

You have to give it to me!

I am going to kick and scream and hold my breath until I turn blue.

So you better give it to me!
I'm not sure that Hillary feels any different than Jeb in this regard.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:06 PM
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I believe the Party elites would rather have a Democrat than someone they can't control.
No doubt about it.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:07 PM
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I believe the Party elites would rather have a Democrat than someone they can't control.
True. A GOP Congress could obstruct the Democratic President, call it principled resistance, and organize for another run in 4 years. If their own party controlled the Presidency, undermining of the President by the GOP establishment would tear the party apart.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:15 PM
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Watch for the street militia. Suppressing the Hispanic vote will be essential. This effort will radicalize the Hispanics, and the resulting violence will justify more.
Hyperbolic!
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:32 PM
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I'm not sure that Hillary feels any different than Jeb in this regard.
In Hillary's case I believe that she wants to become the first woman president. Her plan it to ride the coattails of Bill (probably why they are still together) and hoping to capitalize on the popularity of the Clinton name. But it's a lost cause and this strategy is unpopular and backfiring now.

Bush on the other hand is pure legacy, I am the smartest of the Bush's and it's my turn. That's not working very well either.

I don't think neither Hillary nor Bush3 expected serious competition and figured filling the coffers is all that they had to do. Now that's drying up, more so in Hillary's case. Both are seen and are weak candidates.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:34 PM
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I'm not sure that Hillary feels any different than Jeb in this regard.
Two from the same family is not the same as three.

Don't try to pretend that it is.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:38 PM
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Hyperbolic!
I bloody hope it's hyperbolic. But I'm not at all sure.
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