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[finnbow]

Originally Posted by nailer

What did you fly?

"McCain began as a sub-par flier who was at times careless and reckless; during the early to mid-1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mc...nam_assignment

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by icenine

Seems to be this idea that Obama lost Iraq all of a sudden.

ISIS is just the new name of Al Qaeda In Iraq, which did not exist until we invaded that country in 2003.

I though Al Qaeda removed itself from any Isis association, not by chance.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Finnbow is not a public figure...like a Senator, Governor, President.

So? He said a carrier pilot was a lousy flyer.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by nailer

So? He said a carrier pilot was a lousy flyer.

Yep
I think he did crash once in a ball of fire on the deck and climbed out.
I think Finn is jealous he's not a mans man LOL

[nailer]

Originally Posted by finnbow

"McCain began as a sub-par flier who was at times careless and reckless; during the early to mid-1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mc...nam_assignment

This doesn't support your original broad-brush criticism. In addition, lousy overstates sub-par.

How many carrier pilots have crashed when learning how to control crash land?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by nailer

So? He said a carrier pilot was a lousy flyer.

The official Navy report into the Corpus Christi accident on March 12, 1960, concludes that the AD-6 Skyraider trainer crashed because McCain failed to "maintain an airspeed above the stall speed." It attributed the accident to "the preoccupation of the pilot coupled with a power setting too low to maintain level flight." The single-engine prop plane sank to the bottom of Corpus Christi Bay. McCain was rescued by a helicopter after swimming to the surface.

In his autobiography, McCain recalls another mishap around December 1961 when "I knocked down some power lines while flying too low over southern Spain. My daredevil clowning had cut off electricity to a great many Spanish homes and created a small international incident." He landed his Skyraider back on the USS Intrepid after the incident, which does not appear to have triggered a safety investigation.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fac...vy_record.html

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by nailer

What did you fly?

Originally Posted by finnbow

"McCain began as a sub-par flier who was at times careless and reckless; during the early to mid-1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mc...nam_assignment

No answer to the question???

Just belittling with political bias

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by nailer

So? He said a carrier pilot was a lousy flyer.

Originally Posted by nailer

This doesn't support your original broad-brush criticism. In addition, lousy overstates sub-par.

How many carrier pilots have crashed when learning how to control crash land?

The official Navy report into the Corpus Christi accident on March 12, 1960, concludes that the AD-6 Skyraider trainer crashed because McCain failed to "maintain an airspeed above the stall speed." It attributed the accident to "the preoccupation of the pilot coupled with a power setting too low to maintain level flight." The single-engine prop plane sank to the bottom of Corpus Christi Bay. McCain was rescued by a helicopter after swimming to the surface.

In his autobiography, McCain recalls another mishap around December 1961 when "I knocked down some power lines while flying too low over southern Spain. My daredevil clowning had cut off electricity to a great many Spanish homes and created a small international incident." He landed his Skyraider back on the USS Intrepid after the incident, which does not appear to have triggered a safety investigation.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fac...vy_record.html

You can call this good piloting. I call it lousy piloting. To each his own.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by nailer

What did you fly?

Originally Posted by finnbow

"McCain began as a sub-par flier who was at times careless and reckless; during the early to mid-1960s, the planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mc...nam_assignment

Originally Posted by nailer

So? He said a carrier pilot was a lousy flyer.

Originally Posted by nailer

This doesn't support your original broad-brush criticism. In addition, lousy overstates sub-par.

How many carrier pilots have crashed when learning how to control crash land?

Originally Posted by finnbow

The official Navy report into the Corpus Christi accident on March 12, 1960, concludes that the AD-6 Skyraider trainer crashed because McCain failed to "maintain an airspeed above the stall speed." It attributed the accident to "the preoccupation of the pilot coupled with a power setting too low to maintain level flight." The single-engine prop plane sank to the bottom of Corpus Christi Bay. McCain was rescued by a helicopter after swimming to the surface.

In his autobiography, McCain recalls another mishap around December 1961 when "I knocked down some power lines while flying too low over southern Spain. My daredevil clowning had cut off electricity to a great many Spanish homes and created a small international incident." He landed his Skyraider back on the USS Intrepid after the incident, which does not appear to have triggered a safety investigation.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fac...vy_record.html

You can call this good piloting. I call it lousy piloting. To each his own.

Still no answer to the question?
Just diversion.

And I'll add one were did you give service Finn?

[Rajoo]

The conversation is regarding ISIS and specifically the recent US air strikes to help Iraqi Kurds thwart the ISIS advance in Northern Iraq.
I was questioning if Obama will get goaded into deepr involvement by the war mongers McCain and Graham. In fact they had already made several comments in the past two months regarding US non-involvement in Iraq. So are we questioning McCain's credibility? Why not.

The guy that picked Palin as his running mate for the most important job in the world does say a lot about his judgement. YMMV. He had a very good chance of winning simply because Obama was a new comer and inexperienced on the national stage. And he blew it.