2 year term. Good or bad.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

We've already had one President for Life in spite of G. Washingtons' disapproval.

Be careful, the GOP will reanimate Reagan

Btw, no exceptions, war, whatever. It never ceases to amaze me that we held elections at all during the civil war.

Pete

Ray-gun could never get elected today.

Too liberal for the baggars, too heartless for the left.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Ray-gun could never get elected today.

Too liberal for the baggars, too heartless for the left.

The revisionists have erased the Lebanese fiasco - 241 marines dead - and the memory of Gorbachev.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The revisionists have erased the Lebanese fiasco - 241 marines dead - and the memory of Gorbachev.

Not to mention Iran-Contra.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The revisionists have erased the Lebanese fiasco - 241 marines dead - and the memory of Gorbachev.

This really belongs in that God damned "Benghazi" thread but there were actually three Lebanese "fiascos". There's the Marine barracks bombing that you mentioned. It occurred in October of 1983 and was the worst day for the Marines since Iwo Jima.

We remember that one but we tend to forget that just 6 months earlier the US Embassy in Beirut was bombed. In that disaster 63 people were killed.

Reagan said, "This criminal act on a diplomatic establishment will not deter us from our goals of peace in the region." The Congressional response was not to hold hearings so as to assign blame but to authorize an additional $251 million in aid to Lebanon.

There was no other response except to move the embassy to another "more secure" annex. That location was bombed in September of 1983 with the loss of 22 people.

Six months after the first bombing, and only one month after the second, two suicide bombers driving trucks simultaneously struck the US Marine barracks and the barracks housing the 1st French Parachute Chasseur Regiment. We lost 241 people and the French lost 58.

Reagan called the act "despicable" and swore to maintain a military presence in Lebanon. In February 1984 the Marines were withdrawn from Lebanon.

John

[bobabode]

Who can forget the de-mothballing of the New Jersey so we could lob VW sized shells into the Bekaa Valley indescriminately. Terror anyone?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

This really belongs in that God damned "Benghazi" thread but there were actually three Lebanese "fiascos". There's the Marine barracks bombing that you mentioned. It occurred in October of 1983 and was the worst day for the Marines since Iwo Jima.

We remember that one but we tend to forget that just 6 months earlier the US Embassy in Beirut was bombed. In that disaster 63 people were killed.

Reagan said, "This criminal act on a diplomatic establishment will not deter us from our goals of peace in the region." The Congressional response was not to hold hearings so as to assign blame but to authorize an additional $251 million in aid to Lebanon.

There was no other response except to move the embassy to another "more secure" annex. That location was bombed in September of 1983 with the loss of 22 people.

Six months after the first bombing, and only one month after the second, two suicide bombers driving trucks simultaneously struck the US Marine barracks and the barracks housing the 1st French Parachute Chasseur Regiment. We lost 241 people and the French lost 58.

Reagan called the act "despicable" and swore to maintain a military presence in Lebanon. In February 1984 the Marines were withdrawn from Lebanon.

John

And, I thought it was the Elephant that was supposed to have the long memory........

Or maybe it not an act of ineptitude or cowardice......"...if we do it."

Regards,
Dave

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Shouldn't everyone?

When they're ramping up for war? And the left calls the RIGHT sheeple

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

When they're ramping up for war? And the left calls the RIGHT sheeple

Pete

And you weren't? Haven't events over the last decade shown you anything about blind obedience and credulity?

John

[piece-itpete]

If I accept your position as correct, it still comes back to, wasn't FDR better than that?

Pete

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

If I accept your position as correct, it still comes back to, wasn't FDR better than that?

Pete

Please explain. FDR lied us into two wars?

John