Violence?

[Pio1980]

It still perplexes me that the military have been conned by folks that claim to support them while screwing soldiers and vets to cut taxes and regs. Worse, they chose a demonstrably untrustworthy con man bullshit artist as their CIC with no experience or professional competence or curiosity.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

It still perplexes me that the military have been conned by folks that claim to support them while screwing soldiers and vets to cut taxes and regs. Worse, they chose a demonstrably untrustworthy con man bullshit artist as their CIC with no experience or professional competence or curiosity.

It's the same "everybody knows" garbage that you hear in the civilian world.

"Everyone knows Republicans love the military and Democrats spit on them."
"Everyone knows Democrats never serve in the military."
"Everyone knows Democrats are too cowardly to fight."
Etc., etc...……….

There is, of course, no basis in reality to it. It's all nothing but right wing propaganda that appeals to those who have a need to believe they're better than the rest.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The writer claims to be perplexed by the significant support for Trump by members of the military despite Trump non military attendance and Trump's dissing of traditional and important military figures.

one would think that there would be some mention of Trump's loud attack on China as a factor informing this support. Many people are pissed that China was allowed to string the US along for so long and that a country which is still under the communist party benefited so much from the deindustrialization of the US. A visit to Walmart tells the story.

A soldier is not immune to the fallout. I suspect that many who are on the ramparts, have love ones, relatives, persons they know who were thrown on the scrap heap or their horizons diminished because of the heavy use of China.

Trump's loud attempt in trying to secure the southern border and strong resistance to his every move I believe would affect military personnel especially those who are trained to, expect to defend and secure other nations.

Whenever there are glaring omissions in my opinion in an article I tend to discount its integrity.

Nope. You're digging too deep. Long before Trump, MFN status for China and the current conditions at the southern border the military was still heavily Republican. It's the belief that Democrats are somehow weak, anti-military and "un-American" that feeds it. That's the common thread that runs through the ever changing steam of events. Republicans = Strength, Democrats = Weakness. There is very little to no historical proof to support it but, there it is.

Right wing propaganda appeals to the Nietzschean mind.

[Pio1980]

This incompetent vainglorious gullible ass of a POTUS is a traitorous gift to our adversaries in the short and long term.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

It still perplexes me that the military have been conned by folks that claim to support them while screwing soldiers and vets to cut taxes and regs. Worse, they chose a demonstrably untrustworthy con man bullshit artist as their CIC with no experience or professional competence or curiosity.

I served eight years, discharged honorably. I can't imagine serving under this ass. I can only guess that the majority of his supporters never spent a day in uniform, or the ones who have are fools.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Chicks

I served eight years, discharged honorably. I can't imagine serving under this ass. I can only guess that the majority of his supporters never spent a day in uniform, or the ones who have are fools.

See Bluestreak's post. Predominate military support for Republicans is a cultural thing--militiary=>authoritarian=>conservative.

[Pio1980]

Why is it that folks who like Trump because he speaks his mind don't like me for telling it as I see it about him?

[donquixote99]

Funny thing, that.

Of course that saying is make-up on a pig, what they mean is Trump speaks his mind by insulting people they also don't like.

[BigElCat]

There's no way Trump and his clan could orchestrate an organized rebellion within the military forces of the USA.

Suppose 40% of the USAF wanted to splinter off from the 60% that remained loyal to the US Constitution.

Do you think the splinter/Trump faction would catch the loyal faction by surprise ? How many airplanes and bombs could they liberate ?

Same for the Army, Navy, and Marines. You think they could fragment without the other side knowing about it in advance ?

A Military Coup would be possible, if they all stayed together, but splintering along political lines is not.

Regarding the Militias, State Governors would call upon their home state National Guard to put them down. I really don't think a militia could gain access to enough heavy armament quick enough to be a threat to any wing of the military.

I'll use my home state, Kansas, as an example. Suppose 24,000 men armed with ARs and AKs and unlimited ammo wanted to control the region. They would have to be very discreet in their communications, and have a very well though out plan.

They would have to simultaneously assassinate about five key figures, including the Governor, and Adjunct General of the National Guard. Assassinate the people who are next in the chain of command, just to sow chaos. And over run a dozen National Guard Armories to get tanks. The ammo is stored somewhere else. They'd have to get that ammo. And fuel. Then blast their way to a rendezvous point. And then their rebellion buddies from the USAF would provide air support.

I don't really see it happening.

[donquixote99]

Ever see the movie Valkyrie? That's what it is like when the military splits and a faction tries a coup. Came close to working. But the hard part is getting officers to decide to take action AGAINST the authoritarian leader.