Conyers - 2 women allege harassment

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, your answer is yes. I thought so.

No, it's not. But there you go again...

Update - John Conyers was, sadly, hospitalized this morning. Unclear right now the reason but he's said to be resting comfortably at the moment.

Right now, on the radio, Conyer's attorney is making a statement. He's taking Pelosi to task for calling on Conyers to resign. Specifically, the attorney said:

"Nancy Pelosi needs to explain the difference between the behavior Al Franken and John Conyers."

I think that's a reasonable request.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No, it's not. But there you go again...

Update - John Conyers was, sadly, hospitalized this morning. Unclear right now the reason but he's said to be resting comfortably at the moment.

Right now, on the radio, Conyer's attorney is making a statement. He's taking Pelosi to task for calling on Conyers to resign. Specifically, the attorney said:

"Nancy Pelosi needs to explain the difference between the behavior Al Franken and John Conyers."

I think that's a reasonable request.

The biggest difference (thus far) is that Conyers was a member of Congress at the time and Franken was a comedian (i.e., one engaged in sexual harassment in the workplace and the other didn't). I haven't followed the exact nature of the transgressions, but I don't think either of them molested children while they were Assistant District Attorney.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The biggest difference (thus far) is that Conyers was a member of Congress at the time and Franken was a comedian (i.e., one engaged in sexual harassment in the workplace and the other didn't). I haven't followed the exact nature of the transgressions, but I don't think either of them molested children while they were Assistant District Attorney.

The other difference is that Franken, kidding around, engaged is a public pantomime of sexual harassment. I don't know what Conyers did, but seems like it was probably considerably worse.

One important thing that is becoming clear is we don't lump any and all sexual misbehavior together. Categories must be recognized.

[Chicks]

For simpletons like Whell, there are two categories:

“Libs”=guilty
Right-wing nut jobs=We must give them the benefit of the doubt

[nailer]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The biggest difference (thus far) is that Conyers was a member of Congress at the time and Franken was a comedian (i.e., one engaged in sexual harassment in the workplace and the other didn't). I haven't followed the exact nature of the transgressions, but I don't think either of them molested children while they were Assistant District Attorney.

Regardless of where it occurs sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Of course a sophist would argue otherwise.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The other difference is that Franken, kidding around, engaged is a public pantomime of sexual harassment. I don't know what Conyers did, but seems like it was probably considerably worse.

One important thing that is becoming clear is we don't lump any and all sexual misbehavior together. Categories must be recognized.

Grabbing someone's ass isn't pantomime and IIRC Franken has been accused of this.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by nailer

Regardless of where it occurs sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Of course a sophist would argue otherwise.

Sexual harassment isn't the same as sexual molestation of a minor. The former is boorish, ugly behavior that is against company policy. Sexual molestation of a minor is a crime. The former seems to have been business as usual in American industry until Harvey Weinstein upset the apple cart. The latter has been a crime for decades. In short, bad behavior vs. criminal behavior.

[Pio1980]

Fox news is having wall to wall schadenfreud orgasms over Matt Lauer's downfall to cover their own scandals, and silence all around on the pussygrabber and Clarence Thomas.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Sexual harassment isn't the same as sexual molestation of a minor. The former is boorish, ugly behavior that is against company policy. Sexual molestation of a minor is a crime. The former seems to have been business as usual in American industry until Harvey Weinstein upset the apple cart. The latter has been a crime for decades. In short, bad behavior vs. criminal behavior.

You might want to reread the first sentence of your post I responded to which is about harassment by Conyers and Franken. BTW, sexual molestation is a crime regardless of the victim's age. In addition, I'm pretty sure sexual harassment is unlawful too.

Apparently you're not quite as smart as you think you are.

[CarlV]

Nice one, perv

Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) used taxpayer funds to end a dispute with his communications director in 2014.

By RACHAEL BADE

12/01/2017 12:24 PM EST

Rep. Blake Farenthold used taxpayer money to settle a sexual harassment claim brought by his former spokesman — the only known sitting member of Congress to have used a little-known congressional account to pay an accuser, sources told POLITICO.

Lauren Greene, the Texas Republican’s former communications director, sued her boss in December 2014 over allegations of gender discrimination, sexual harassment and creating a hostile work environment.

Greene claimed in the lawsuit that another Farenthold aide told her the lawmaker had “sexual fantasies” and “wet dreams” about Greene. She also claimed that Farenthold “regularly drank to excess” and told her in February 2014 that he was “estranged from his wife and had not had sex with her in years.”

When she complained about comments Farenthold and a male staffer made to her, Greene said the congressman improperly fired her. She filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia, but the case was later dropped after both parties reached a private settlement.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...assment-274458