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[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Indeterminate.

Does intelligence have a limit?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

Does intelligence have a limit?

Yes, since there is always somebody who is smarter and hence it is also indeterminate.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Yes, since there is always somebody who is smarter and hence it is also indeterminate.

If there is always someone smarter, intelligence would appear to be limitless and for division by zero to be indeterminate there has to be a limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
In ordinary arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (assuming a≠0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 also has no defined value; when it is the form of a limit, it is an indeterminate form.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

If there is always someone smarter, intelligence would appear to be limitless and for division by zero to be indeterminate there has to be a limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
In ordinary arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (assuming a≠0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 also has no defined value; when it is the form of a limit, it is an indeterminate form.

Will argue this later since $ calls.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Will argue this later since $ calls.

I might be wrong.

I'm going on my memory from Mr. Mansers Algebra Class in the 8th grade.

He would start every test or quiz off with the same 3 part question.

1/0 = ?
0/0 = ?
0/1= ?

And the three answers that he was looking for were.

0
Any number
Impossible

I was shooting for the "impossible" option. But it's been a long time since 1961 and I forget which answer went with which one. And being the utterly useless a piece of information that this is, I haven't had occasion to revisit it since then.

Truth is 98% of my attention in that class was directed at a chick named Cecilia. She used to wear these really cool tartan plaid skirts with these classy blouses that looked like oxford shirts and she had shoulder length ash blonde hair and brown eyes and a pretty pale white complexion.

Funny how you can remember some things in such extraordinary detail and others, not so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5_QV97eYqM

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

We need to move this one over the the "Fake News" thread.

It appears that the fake news meme has become the current favorite of the right. I was at a county commission meeting today and one a the commissioners (a tea party proponent) concluded that because a news story was critical of him, it was fake news.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I might be wrong.

I'm going on my memory from Mr. Mansers Algebra Class in the 8th grade.

He would start every test or quiz off with the same 3 part question.

1/0 = ?
0/0 = ?
0/1= ?

And the three answers that he was looking for were.

0
Any number
Impossible

I was shooting for the "impossible" option. But it's been a long time since 1961 and I forget which answer went with which one. And being the utterly useless a piece of information that this is, I haven't had occasion to revisit it since then.

Truth is 98% of my attention in that class was directed at a chick named Cecilia. She used to wear these really cool tartan plaid skirts with these classy blouses that looked like oxford shirts and she had shoulder length ash blonde hair and brown eyes and a pretty pale white complexion.

Funny how you can remember some things in such extraordinary detail and others, not so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5_QV97eYqM

Zero is an undefined number, so any operation with a zero or on a zero is undefined.

So 1/0 & 0/0 = undefined.

0/1 or 0*1 is commonly answered as zero by calculators though the operation is still undefinable.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

If there is always someone smarter, intelligence would appear to be limitless and for division by zero to be indeterminate there has to be a limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
In ordinary arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (assuming a≠0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 also has no defined value; when it is the form of a limit, it is an indeterminate form.

I will argue this in reverse. Is there a person in this world that knows everything and can figure out everything? No and thus there has to be a limit to human intelligence since there will always be some unknown.

As to your second point, there is a limit but you will never get there since one can always come up with a number smaller. So one approaches zero without ever getting there. Thus the term infinitesimally small or large if divided by "zero'.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Zero is an undefined number, so any operation with a zero or on a zero is undefined.

So 1/0 & 0/0 = undefined.

0/1 or 0*1 is commonly answered as zero by calculators though the operation is still undefinable.

So Old Man Manser taught us wrong?

Not surprising.

Most days he just come in and assign us a bunch of problems to work out of the text book.

Then he's sit down behind his desk, slouch way down in his chair and go to sleep. He'd put his elbow down on the desk and prop his head up with his palm on his forehead in a way so that he would be pulling on the skin above his eye to hold it open so that he would look like he was awake and watching us. It was fucking hilarious.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I will argue this in reverse. Is there a person in this world that knows everything and can figure out everything? No and thus there has to be a limit to human intelligence since there will always be some unknown.

As to your second point, there is a limit but you will never get there since one can always come up with a number smaller. So one approaches zero without ever getting there. Thus the term infinitesimally small or large if divided by "zero'.

Your first point is an assumption. Your second point is off topic in that we aren't talking about intelligence approaching zero.

And it's good to know you know that division by zero is undefined.