The Trump Crime Family - Legal Issues

[Chicks]

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—After pleading the Fifth Amendment more than four hundred times in his deposition to the New York State attorney general, Donald J. Trump boasted that Joe Biden could never take the Fifth as many times as he did.

“I’d like to see Sleepy Joe sit in a chair for six hours and take the Fifth four hundred times,” he told reporters. “It’s not gonna happen.”

Claiming that it takes “incredible stamina” to take the Fifth approximately seventy times an hour, Trump said, “I’m winning at the Fifth.”

Calling Biden’s Presidency “a disaster,” he said, “What has Sleepy Joe been doing the past week? Passing a climate-change bill, killing that Al Qaeda guy. Meanwhile, how many times did he take the Fifth? A big fat zero. Joe Biden is a disgrace.”

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Chicks

NY AG may seek ‘corporate death penalty’ for Trump Tower — and all his golf courses: legal expert

https://www.rawstory.com/crown-jewel...-golf-courses/

Sounds good to me.

""This cuts right to the crown jewel of his real estate portfolio," Snell said."

Yeah, cut off his jewels...

[Chicks]

Garland just called Donny's bluff - the DOJ will ask for the search warrant and inventory to be unsealed. Donny, of course, could have made both public, but instead kept them hidden to rile up vitriol against the DOJ for doing its job. Checkmate, Donny!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Garland just called Donny's bluff - the DOJ will ask for the search warrant and inventory to be unsealed. Donny, of course, could have made both public, but instead kept them hidden to rile up vitriol against the DOJ for doing its job. Checkmate, Donny!

The Lying Dotard has until 3pm to respond to the DOJ motion to release the warrant. I bet he will move to keep it under wraps and continue to lie in an effort to keep the wingnuts at a fever pitch, hoping that their threats of violence will preclude his prosecution.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The Lying Dotard has until 3pm to respond to the DOJ motion to release the warrant. I bet he will move to keep it under wraps and continue to lie in an effort to keep the wingnuts at a fever pitch, hoping that their threats of violence will preclude his prosecution.

Can't the DOJ ask the judge to put a gag order on Lying ex-chieftain? Its routinely done in many pending lawsuits, or is this a situation where no suit has been filed?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Can't the DOJ ask the judge to put a gag order on Lying ex-chieftain? Its routinely done in many pending lawsuits, or is this a situation where no suit has been filed?

Trump could have released the warrant at any time at his own discretion without the judge's intervention. He's had it since the raid, so it's pretty obvious he doesn't want it out there. We'll find out tomorrow when his lawyer's respond to DOJ's motion. At that point, the decision goes to the judge. IMO, he'll likely decide to release it in that it was originally a DOJ decision to keep it sealed and the default decision is to release court documents to the public and DOJ no longer opposes it. Trump will say he really really wants to release it, but his lawyers tell him not to. It's his only play.

IOW, DOJ called Trump and his minions' bluff. They were demanding a release, the lack of which helped feed their conspiracy theories (notwithstanding that Trump was free to release it at any time).

As for gag order, it can't be done unless and until a trial commences. It's done to prevent influencing prospective jurors. At this point, we don't have an indictment, a trial or a jury.

The new line from MAGAWorld is already going to be "oh we don't want to see the warrant after all. We demand they release the Affidavit of Probable Cause." (Lindsey Graham did this immediately after Garland's announcement). This is something DOJ can't and won't do unless and until he's charged with a crime.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Trump could have released the warrant at any time at his own discretion without the judge's intervention. He's had it since the raid, so it's pretty obvious he doesn't want it out there. We'll find out tomorrow when his lawyer's respond to DOJ's motion. At that point, the decision goes to the judge. IMO, he'll likely decide to release it in that it was originally a DOJ decision to keep it sealed and the default decision is to release court documents to the public and DOJ no longer opposes it. Trump will say he really really wants to release it, but his lawyers tell him not to. It's his only play.

IOW, DOJ called Trump and his minions' bluff. They were demanding a release, the lack of which helped feed their conspiracy theories (notwithstanding that Trump was free to release it at any time).

As for gag order, it can't be done unless and until a trial commences. It's done to prevent influencing prospective jurors. At this point, we don't have an indictment, a trial or a jury.

The new line from MAGAWorld is already going to be "oh we don't want to see the warrant after all. We demand they release the Affidavit of Probable Cause." (Lindsey Graham did this immediately after Garland's announcement). This is something DOJ can't and won't do unless and until he's charged with a crime.

Thanks for the info finn, kudos to your knowledge about our justice system.

[Oerets]

On my local Angry Man radio feeds today it was all about the FBI and Law Enforcement being Political and needed to be STOPPED!

NOW!

[Rajoo]

What if its already too late?

We do know that Meadows was seen burning documents in his office fireplace after Scot Perry's visit and we also know that Trump on his way out of the WH took with him several boxes of documents that he should not have. It was only after a few months he returned a few boxes to the National Archives upon their request. Later National Archives determining that not all was returned asked the Justice Department to look into this further. Now the JD after serving a subpoena then raided the Liar's Den and took a few boxes out and perhaps the contents will soon be released.

But what if in the seven or more months that these boxes were in storage at MAL, some of them have not been scrubbed using Meadows burn technique? After all the Secret Service deleted all possibly incriminating texts from their phones, so why wouldn't trump's team not burn all incriminating papers too, especially since no could keep track of what they took out.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Thanks for the info finn, kudos to your knowledge about our justice system.

And now this per NYT:

Trump allies are discussing the possibility of challenging the Justice Department motion to unseal the Mar-a-Lago search warrant. They have contacted outside lawyers about helping them, according to a person briefed on the discussions.