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Old 02-20-2016, 06:56 PM
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Now, now Raj. She grew up after reading the Lord of The Rings.

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Since Lord of the rings is an epic fantasy, Hillary is probably is still in fantasy land and faking it.
In more ways than one?
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:08 PM
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I see Lord of the Rings as quite very-old-school European conservative in ideology. Like, monarchist? And the Scouring of the Shire chapter can be read as endorsing violent insurrection by militias led by war veterans....
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I see Lord of the Rings as quite very-old-school European conservative in ideology. Like, monarchist? And the Scouring of the Shire chapter can be read as endorsing violent insurrection by militias led by war veterans....
It can also be read as an insurgency aimed at throwing out an invader and defeating the local goon squad the invader created to enforce his totalitarian will.

Interesting that Peter Jackson left it out of his film.
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Old 02-20-2016, 08:04 PM
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It can also be read as an insurgency aimed at throwing out an invader and defeating the local goon squad the invader created to enforce his totalitarian will.

Interesting that Peter Jackson left it out of his film.
I was disappointed that Tom Bombadil and Old Man Willow were scrubbed.
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It can also be read as an insurgency aimed at throwing out an invader and defeating the local goon squad the invader created to enforce his totalitarian will.

Interesting that Peter Jackson left it out of his film.
The 'foreign invader' part is I think part and parcel of how Tolkien did his war myths--mostly, the evil enemy is literally inhuman. Thus in the case of the Shire, the real evil ones are non-Hobbits. The good society that is restored is homogenous, unified, organic, freed of evil outside elements. A conservative vision.

Overlooking this sort of obligatory foreign aspect, the subversion of the Shire parallels a view of the subversion of Germany by the Nazis, with Bilbo's cousin Lotho, the nominal 'chief,' playing the role of the rich conservatives who bankrolled the Nazis, only to see them establish a brutal regime that acted outside their control or desires.

The theme is of course it doesn't matter if you win the big foreign war if the homeland is lost to subversion in the meantime. Jackson likely did see this chapter as a bit difficult, but his claim that he was out of movie time has validity too. As it was, Return of the King had turned into, as Jack Nicholson observed, a film with ending after ending after ending....
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Old 02-20-2016, 10:26 PM
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All Hillarybots, let this be on your conscience.
I was nine during the '64 campaign and I clearly recall Barry wanting to blow us all to kingdom come.

Hillary or Donald. The choice is scary.
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The choice is obvious.
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I was nine during the '64 campaign and I clearly recall Barry wanting to blow us all to kingdom come.

Hillary or Donald. The choice is scary.
We know Hillary will make Wall Street great again whereas Trump promises to make America great again. Take your pick, riches or glory.
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Wall Street is so evil...sorry guys I have to get back to itemizing my tax deductions so I don't have to pay as much as my fellow Americans who for whatever reason do not own their own homes.

Thank God for my mortgage!

Yeah Wall Street sucks...
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Old 02-21-2016, 10:39 AM
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Wall Street is so evil...sorry guys I have to get back to itemizing my tax deductions so I don't have to pay as much as my fellow Americans who for whatever reason do not own their own homes.

Thank God for my mortgage!

Yeah Wall Street sucks...
Hillary has a trust problem, a youth vote problem and Wall Street choke collar around her neck problem. These are directly attributable to the primary voting analysis. What does does your mortgage, itemized deductions and Wall Street have anything to do with this?

Or did Hillary create Wall Street that we should all be thankful for? Our biggest fear would be that what if she really gets indicted, not that I am wishing for it since she has not done anything that her predecessors have not done, but Bill Clinton did get impeached for a non crime.
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