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Old 08-11-2014, 05:09 PM
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Nothing like having an enemy to get the war juices flowing....

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Old 08-11-2014, 09:25 PM
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Your first comment is an interesting one. I often wonder, had Kennedy not been murdered, what would have happened over the rest of his time in office, and what would have been his legacy. He had bought into the "domino" theory as far as I could tell, and I suspect he would have behaved much the same as Johnson did. It wouldn't have been pretty, and probably would have soured me on American politics even worse than Johnson and Nixon did.
Funny that we are discussing Maliki. At least he is alive.

In a Kennedy sanctioned coup, the President of Viet Nam, Ngo Dinh Diem
was killed. Diem's brother also went down.
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:12 AM
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I think it's more likely that the MID ordered the hit on Kennedy because they knew he wouldn't escalate the war.
See I think, if there was a complicated conspiracy it was all about Cuba, not Vietnam. And Kennedy was as anti-communist as anybody those days.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:17 AM
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See I think, if there was a complicated conspiracy it was all about Cuba, not Vietnam. And Kennedy was as anti-communist as anybody those days.
Maybe.

Castro certainly had motivation considering how hard Kennedy was trying to assassinate him.

But I don't buy it.

I also don't buy into all the knee jerk demonization of Castro that goes on here.

But then any time any Latin American leader rises up and tries to do some good for the poor of his country our corporate interests throw a hissy fit.

Bottom line, I don't know who was behind the hit on Kennedy, but I suspect it was somewhere on the American right.

I sure as Hell don't buy that ludicrous cover story that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

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Old 08-12-2014, 12:06 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z1

Tehran backs Maliki's successor.
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:35 PM
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Funny that we are discussing Maliki. At least he is alive.

In a Kennedy sanctioned coup, the President of Viet Nam, Ngo Dinh Diem
was killed. Diem's brother also went down.
You're right.

It's a long way from "Iraq unravels" to "Who killed JFK.

My bad.

Time to get back on track.


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Old 08-13-2014, 06:07 PM
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Why are we telling ISIS what we intend to do.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-weighing...-politics.html
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:47 PM
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I'm a fair man.

Find me one case where someone other than a right winger slips up and refers to Obama as "Osama". Just one, and I'll drop the issue.

You have the whole internet to look for one.

You might want to start with Biden, he's always tripping up.
How about that right winger Ted Kennedy.

Do you now relinquish your position as the final arbiter of each member's political persuasion?

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Old 08-13-2014, 06:52 PM
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I'm a fair man.

Find me one case where someone other than a right winger slips up and refers to Obama as "Osama". Just one, and I'll drop the issue.

You have the whole internet to look for one.

You might want to start with Biden, he's always tripping up.
It was just a malaprop, you have him pegged as something he most certainly is not. Just drop it and move on.

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Old 08-13-2014, 07:03 PM
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I'm a fair man.

Find me one case where someone other than a right winger slips up and refers to Obama as "Osama". Just one, and I'll drop the issue.

You have the whole internet to look for one.

You might want to start with Biden, he's always tripping up.
Do a search on youtube, they're everywhere. Here's a sample.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRk2yV080t4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R34wyeX0rc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoXHkWaSdZw
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