Trump Disgraces America Every Day

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oerets

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OK, THAT was hilarious! Thanks!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

This would be telling: In a nursing home or senior living area that had deaths from CV19, how did their daily, monthly, weekly, death rate (from all causes) cnange? Did it go up, or down, or stay the same? Let's say the average was 20 a month, and now, they claim that 8 died of the virus last month, yet their death count for the month was 21. Would a reasonable person not first come to the conclusion that the virus may have increased deaths that month by 1, rather than 8? And we now have several months of stats to analyze.

Yes it would be. You made up your data (you can prove anything that way), but that analysis has been done with real numbers. Reference below is to a article on the whole co-morbidity thing from John Hopkins. They discuss the excess death number. From March to September, about 200,000 more people have died in this country than would be expected in a normal year. If it's not COVID, what is it?
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/09/01/comor...us-deaths-cdc/

[Chicks]

Orange Shitstain told a reporter his biggest secret: that he is a danger to the American people
Trump is a particularly stupid man who thinks he is very smart. Perhaps this lies at the root of his monumentally dumb decision to grant Bob Woodward 18 interviews

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ard-interviews

His followers are also very stupid people who think they are very smart. Explains their support for the idiot. Insane is our resident case in point.

[Chicks]

This time Trump's lie will matter

https://www.ncronline.org/news/opini...ie-will-matter

The reason this lie is different is not only that it is on audiotape. It is that Trump is not discussing corruption in Ukraine or campaign finance laws or things most people care little about and know even less. He is lying about a virus that has affected everyone in the country somehow. Everyone knows someone who has contracted the virus or been isolated in a nursing home because of the virus or lost their job because of the virus or had to rearrange their entire lives because the kids are home instead of at school.

Biden's campaign needs to get past the cable news hosts in figuring out how to address these outrageous comments from the president. For example, many talking heads noted the president admitted to Woodward on March 19 that the virus did not only affect older people, but that he admitted knowing way back then that it affected young people. Publicly, for many weeks, he would insist that young people never get the virus. The commentators focused on the deceit, but if I were writing ads for Biden, I would focus on the way the president seems so blasé about the virus impacting older people. And I would run that ad on Turner Classic Movie channel, The Weather Channel and during reruns of "Law & Order." Those are the things old folk like myself tend to watch.

I have worried for five years now about the effectiveness of Trump's "fake news" mantra. As I discussed a few weeks back, it is not only a point of convergence with the methodologies of previous attempts by fascists to undermine democracy, but it is part of the professional wrestling fakery Trump has mastered. Now, for the first time, I think he may have said something from which he will have a tough time escaping. This time the lie will matter.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Orange Shitstain told a reporter his biggest secret: that he is a danger to the American people
Trump is a particularly stupid man who thinks he is very smart. Perhaps this lies at the root of his monumentally dumb decision to grant Bob Woodward 18 interviews

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ard-interviews

His followers are also very stupid people who think they are very smart. Explains their support for the idiot. Insane is our resident case in point.

He is a sociopathic self-serving master manipulator, that's his super power.
He thought in his delusional arrogance he could "play" BW as such, but Woodward is not the gullible fool that Trump takes his usual "marks" to be.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...ard/index.html

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by NipperDog

Your response is cryptic to me and I'm not sure I understand this part of it.

Let me try again. The argument is 'Whatabout Woodward? Isn't he at fault for not warning everyone when he learned that Trump was minimizing the danger of CV-19 despite knowing its deadly nature?'

Notice that this argument neither refutes the accusations against Trump, nor excuses his actions in any way. All this argument does is get people thinking about Woodward's fault, instead of Trumps undeniable fault. That why I say it is a public relations (PR) maneuver, not an actual defense. Whatever you may decide to think about Woodward, Trump is still exactly as guilty as he was before this idea was brought up. But the effect of the PR maneuver is to make people stop focusing on Trump's fault, and focus on Woodward's instead.

Woodward is not President; his fault, if any, is of much less vital importance than Trump's. This thing is just defense by distraction, which is why I said it should be disregarded.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Yes it would be. You made up your data (you can prove anything that way), but that analysis has been done with real numbers. Reference below is to a article on the whole co-morbidity thing from John Hopkins. They discuss the excess death number. From March to September, about 200,000 more people have died in this country than would be expected in a normal year. If it's not COVID, what is it?
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/09/01/comor...us-deaths-cdc/

Hopkins trumps NI everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

[Chicks]

Heather Cox Richardson
12h ·
September 10, 2020 (Thursday)

While there was continuing fallout today from the story that Trump lied to the American people about the seriousness of the coronavirus, the breaking stories were mostly about securing the election. Overwhelmingly, the stories today were about controlling the flow of information to voters.

We learned that a top aide at the Department of Health and Human Services has been trying to dictate what Dr. Anthony Fauci can say to the media. A senior advisor has warned Fauci to stick close to Trump’s official positions regardless of their distance from scientific facts. The aide objected to Fauci’s endorsement of masks for children in schools, for example, saying—incorrectly—“There is no data, none, zero, across the entire world, that shows children especially young children, spread this virus to other children, or to adults or to their teachers. None. And if it did occur, the risk is essentially zero.” Without evidence, he said that children transmitted the flu, but not coronavirus.

A stunning op-ed Tuesday in the Washington Post by election lawyer Benjamin L. Ginsberg took the president and the Republicans to task for their misrepresentations about the voter fraud. Ginsberg suggested that Republican rhetoric is not “sincere concern,” but rather “transactional hypocrisy designed to provide an electoral advantage.” Trump’s claims that the election is going to be “rigged,” and charges of “voter fraud,” he says, have “put my party in the position of a firefighter who deliberately sets fires to look like a hero putting them out.”

Ginsberg speaks with authority. He spent 38 years as part of the legal operations that gave Republicans structural advantages in the electoral system. He was part of the redistricting in the 1990s that tipped Congress and state legislatures to the Republicans, and he “played a central role in the 2000 Florida recount and several dozen Senate House and state contests.” He was the lawyer for four of the past six Republican presidential nominees.

Ginsberg says: “The truth is that after decades of looking for illegal voting, there’s no proof of widespread fraud. At most, there are isolated incidents — by both Democrats and Republicans. Elections are not rigged. Absentee ballots use the same process as mail-in ballots — different states use different labels for the same process.”

This morning, we learned that the U.S. Treasury has added Ukrainian Andrii Derkach as well as several Russians to its Specially Designated Nationals list for interfering in the U.S. election, blocking his assets and imposing sanctions on him. The government has labeled Derkach an “active Russian agent for over a decade, maintaining close connections with the Russian Intelligence Services.” The Treasury Department charged that Derkach is working for Moscow to undermine the 2020 campaign.

Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani has collaborated with Derkach to spread anti-Biden propaganda, which has been picked up by Republican lawmakers and rightwing news media. Derkach or his associates have also peddled anti-Biden material to Senate Homeland Security Chair Ron Johnson and Representative Devin Nunes (R-CA). When CNN asked Giuliani about Derkach’s new status, he texted “Who cares.” He claimed he had not used Derkach’s information in his attempt to smear Biden during and after the impeachment trial.

The Treasury Department also announced sanctions against three Russian nationals who work for the Russian troll factory known as the Internet Research Agency (the IRA). These trolls flood discussion boards with disinformation and inflammatory language, altering Americans' perspectives on issues... and about each other.

Today, Microsoft warned that the Russian military intelligence unit that hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee in 2016 recently tried to hack into campaign members, consultants, and think tanks associated with both the Democrats and the Republicans. Microsoft said the hacks were not successful. They warn that China is also getting in on the cyberattack game, although China appears to be targeting the Biden campaign alone.

And, finally, today, Twitter announced it is expanding its crackdown on election disinformation, saying it will add fact-check labels to tweets about the election, and hide altogether tweets that contain “false or misleading information that causes confusion” about the election. It will also hide posts with “unverified information about election rigging.”

This, of course, puts Twitter on a collision course with Trump.

[Chicks]

9/11 - The Lincoln Project

https://youtu.be/-KLyOuWAzns

There has been a tradition where political ads are pulled down on 9/11.

But never before have we had a president who attacked the men and women who rose to defend our country, calling them suckers and losers.

This ad is necessary to remind Americans of the character of Trump.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Yes it would be. You made up your data (you can prove anything that way), but that analysis has been done with real numbers. Reference below is to a article on the whole co-morbidity thing from John Hopkins. They discuss the excess death number. From March to September, about 200,000 more people have died in this country than would be expected in a normal year. If it's not COVID, what is it?
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/09/01/comor...us-deaths-cdc/

Thank you for that. I'll read when I get a chance after this WebEx meeting I'm on.