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11-12-2016, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
I don't know. My father worked in a cotton mill and my mother was a cook in the school cafeteria.
I started to work in a warehouse for $3 an hour and just stayed there working my way up through the company. Ended up buying out the owners as they retired. Took 35 years.
There were at least a dozen people working there who could have done the same thing. They just chose not to, didn't want to, whatever. They had the aptitude, but just didn't. I don't know why.
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Nice story. In case you hadn't noticed, few people care.
As for those who didn't follow in your golden footsteps; It's because most people are happy to keep the bills paid, their kids fed and a roof over their heads. No, this doesn't mean they're "losers" or too lazy to "improve themselves", they just have no desire to be the big man in charge. Or maybe some of them are just not cut out for it? Or maybe they just don't want any more responsibility than it takes to load a truck? I don't know and I don't believe it really matters anyways. At any rate, they still have to eat.
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11-12-2016, 11:05 PM
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I was trying to be nice when I said I don't know why.
They are the same people who are clamoring now for the government to take care of them.
Typical Democrats, and the same people that this last election was a movement against.
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Typical Fuck you, I've got mine red state arrogance. It's long had Utah, and it keeps Alabama and other similar States in thrall of Republican Stockholm syndrome with a similar Henny Penny Conservative narrative. Free stuff from Uncle Sam is for fine folks that worked for it, not those layabouts over there that won't /can't rise to compete for low paying jobs, and their bastard kids. The one thing that's always been valued in the Conservative marketplace is the cheapest possible labor pool, something the middle class once bucked. Killing unions and a race to the bottom on production costs ending the jobs that made laborers their own customers and sure took care of that burden on the bottom line.
We forgot that one purpose of commerce is fairly paid gainful employment to move the money thru the broadest base, and not maximizing profits for a few stockholders and upper management filling golden retirement packages with short term profit figures.
I've got mine, fuck you.
And, somehow, a self absorbed blowhard huckster billionaire who lacks any ethical standard or basis for empathy with the demographic that got pushed out of play by the same tactics he uses himself is the answer to the Conservative agenda of the cheapest possible labor pool.
Good luck with that shit.
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11-13-2016, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
You acknowledge that you don't know why no one else hung around and worked in a warehouse forever. I'm sure you also don't know where those people went in their careers. Some may be far more successful than you. Some may be far happier, or more content. Hell one of them might be better off than you in all those aspects.
Try to be humble. Never hurts to try something new. Might even make you look more successful.
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Very good post Was. During a job interview the hiring manager told me that one either seeks happiness or contentment in life. If I can figure which one I want, come back and talk to him.
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11-13-2016, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
Typical Fuck you, I've got mine red state arrogance. It's long had Utah, and it keeps Alabama and other similar States in thrall of Republican Stockholm syndrome with a similar Henny Penny Conservative narrative. Free stuff from Uncle Sam is for fine folks that worked for it, not those layabouts over there that won't /can't rise to compete for low paying jobs, and their bastard kids. The one thing that's always been valued in the Conservative marketplace is the cheapest possible labor pool, something the middle class once bucked. Killing unions and a race to the bottom on production costs ending the jobs that made laborers their own customers and sure took care of that burden on the bottom line.
We forgot that one purpose of commerce is fairly paid gainful employment to move the money thru the broadest base, and not maximizing profits for a few stockholders and upper management filling golden retirement packages with short term profit figures.
I've got mine, fuck you.
And, somehow, a self absorbed blowhard huckster billionaire who lacks any ethical standard or basis for empathy with the demographic that got pushed out of play by the same tactics he uses himself is the answer to the Conservative agenda of the cheapest possible labor pool.
Good luck with that shit.
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Excellent!
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11-13-2016, 09:18 AM
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Excellent!
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Yeah, babble from a loser.
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11-13-2016, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
You acknowledge that you don't know why no one else hung around and worked in a warehouse forever. I'm sure you also don't know where those people went in their careers. Some may be far more successful than you. Some may be far happier, or more content. Hell one of them might be better off than you in all those aspects.
Try to be humble. Never hurts to try something new. Might even make you look more successful.
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Also excellent!
I've never understood why some folks knock contentment. If a person is happy driving a truck or assembling widgets, so what? Leave them alone. Stop trying to make them something they're not or don't want to be. There is so much of that out there and I don't understand it.
"Look at me! Look at me! I'm rich and ambitious! I have nicer things than you because I deserve it! You should try to be like me!"
Well, good for you. Now piss off. And, NO, I'm not jealous, you're arrogant and elitist.
Then, these people try to claim that we working folks are oppressing them and seek policy that holds "labor costs" down so they can have more........................... This really makes me sick.
I'm guess that's where you and I diverge?
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11-13-2016, 09:26 AM
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Yeah, babble from a loser.
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Yeah, response from an asshole.
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11-13-2016, 09:28 AM
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Using minimally paid laborers up and tossing them aside is Conservative SOP, not that anyone noticed that happening.
The genius is the success of the Stockholm syndrome the Conservative narrative promotes to garner support for this devious policy and cover it's gilded ass with it's victims.
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11-13-2016, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Yeah, response from an asshole.
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You are a typical guy who gets a job doing something you can teach anybody to do in a few weeks and you expect the owners or stockholders to pay you a large share of the company profits for doing it. I have no idea where you work but I guarantee they could replace you and never miss a beat.
And, you begrudge the people who invested their money to give you a job because they make some profit at it.
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11-13-2016, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
You are a typical guy who gets a job doing something you can teach anybody to do in a few weeks and you expect the owners or stockholders to pay you a large share of the company profits for doing it. I have no idea where you work but I guarantee they could replace you and never miss a beat.
And, you begrudge the people who invested their money to give you a job because they make some profit at it.
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Where did you learn to be an asshole? Think it takes years of study or something? You're replaceable as well. And have been, in fact.
So you come on here and spout your own babble to support your feeling that you're so special as you rush toward the cemetery along with everyone else.
Now, to get off the personal case, I'm just against the idea that management is for some reason entitled to astronomical salary and equity holders are entitled to ALL the surplus. They should get a proportionate defined return, like everyone else. Dividends should be split among all contributors, in proportion to their contributions, not just to equity holders.
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