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Old 10-10-2016, 08:55 AM
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Yeah, if someone goes a minute over on their response, there will be Hell to pay.
Isn't it the emperor jackass of Trump tower with the Hell toupee?

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Old 10-10-2016, 09:57 AM
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So who won the debate?

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Old 10-10-2016, 10:05 AM
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'Fact-checking the second Clinton-Trump presidential debate' WaPo

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Old 10-10-2016, 10:41 AM
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It was a draw. Trump primarily deflected to his well worn talking points and didn't self immolate.
Hillz didn't score any crippling hits on him that he hasn't inflicted himself.
The hard core support will remain, a few fence sitters may move. Whether it's enough to score a kill is still in question, but Trump will have to struggle to prevail as of now, IMO.

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Old 10-10-2016, 10:48 AM
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:59 AM
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It was a draw. Trump primarily deflected to his well worn talking points and didn't self immolate.
Hillz didn't score any crippling hits on him that he hasn't inflicted himself.
The hard core support will remain, a few fence sitters may move. Whether it's enough to score a kill is still in question, but Trump will have to struggle to prevail as of now, IMO.

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What did he say, or what did Hillary say, that would cause them to move?
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:03 AM
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So who won the debate?

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Nobody won but Trump clearly lost, whining about the moderators, pacing around the stage like Rowdy Roddy Piper, and promising to lock up a political rival in classic Putinesque style.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:25 AM
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What is with that sniffing Trump does? He seemed 'roided up last night.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:25 AM
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What did he say, or what did Hillary say, that would cause them to move?
I think a combination of style and stance.
Trump physically stalked his rival, talking over her out of turn, threatening her with legal action if elected. He repeatedly deflected to his scattershot talking points sans specifics and continually discounted the stature of the USA, a sales pitch saying "you have problems, only I have the solutions", for a price. His campaign has been consistent with these features, playing to an established base without seriously attempting to expand it's appeal. He is still repugnant to those that never believed in him or his sales pitch.

Hillz didn't say much to quell doubts about her e-mails with a diciplined but lackluster presentation, nor did she humiliate him dominating the evening.
Folks who respect her abilities and experience will stay with her, those that are unsure about her trustworthiness will have to choose based on their priorities.

Barring a telling October suprize for Hillz or an epiphany on Trump's lack of qualifications (his lack of character is already established as a matter of record), I see this going to Hillz in the end in spite of the deep rooted populist support for her rival.

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Warren Buffett strikes back at Trump today on taxes.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/10/warre...his-taxes.html

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