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11-12-2016, 11:25 AM
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I don't know. My father worked in a cotton mill and my mother was a cook in the school cafeteria.
I started to work in a warehouse for $3 an hour and just stayed there working my way up through the company. Ended up buying out the owners as they retired. Took 35 years.
There were at least a dozen people working there who could have done the same thing. They just chose not to, didn't want to, whatever. They had the aptitude, but just didn't. I don't know why.
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11-12-2016, 11:46 AM
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I don't know. My father worked in a cotton mill and my mother was a cook in the school cafeteria.
I started to work in a warehouse for $3 an hour and just stayed there working my way up through the company. Ended up buying out the owners as they retired. Took 35 years.
There were at least a dozen people working there who could have done the same thing. They just chose not to, didn't want to, whatever. They had the aptitude, but just didn't. I don't know why.
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You admit you don't know why. You therefore do not have grounds to say they are less good than you, that there must be something wrong with them, because they don't act like you. You might investigate deeper into human personality and motivations. A simplistic assessment of 'aptitude' leaves you not knowing why, after all.
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11-12-2016, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
I don't know. My father worked in a cotton mill and my mother was a cook in the school cafeteria.
I started to work in a warehouse for $3 an hour and just stayed there working my way up through the company. Ended up buying out the owners as they retired. Took 35 years.
There were at least a dozen people working there who could have done the same thing. They just chose not to, didn't want to, whatever. They had the aptitude, but just didn't. I don't know why.
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You acknowledge that you don't know why no one else hung around and worked in a warehouse forever. I'm sure you also don't know where those people went in their careers. Some may be far more successful than you. Some may be far happier, or more content. Hell one of them might be better off than you in all those aspects.
Try to be humble. Never hurts to try something new. Might even make you look more successful.
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11-12-2016, 01:45 PM
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You acknowledge that you don't know why no one else hung around and worked in a warehouse forever. I'm sure you also don't know where those people went in their careers. Some may be far more successful than you. Some may be far happier, or more content. Hell one of them might be better off than you in all those aspects.
Try to be humble. Never hurts to try something new. Might even make you look more successful.
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Thanks Was. We may not see eye to eye politically but that post was a bases loaded outta the park homerun. I owe you a beer and a stogie if I ever get up to Alaska.
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11-12-2016, 04:15 PM
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You acknowledge that you don't know why no one else hung around and worked in a warehouse forever. I'm sure you also don't know where those people went in their careers. Some may be far more successful than you. Some may be far happier, or more content. Hell one of them might be better off than you in all those aspects.
Try to be humble. Never hurts to try something new. Might even make you look more successful.
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The most talented one of the bunch didn't even have a checking account. He and his wife went to Walmart or wherever each payday and he was flat broke by the next pay day. He quit to get his profit sharing, lost half of it to taxes, and bought a motorcycle.
He is probably a doctor now.
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11-12-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
You admit you don't know why. You therefore do not have grounds to say they are less good than you, that there must be something wrong with them, because they don't act like you. You might investigate deeper into human personality and motivations. A simplistic assessment of 'aptitude' leaves you not knowing why, after all.
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I was trying to be nice when I said I don't know why.
They are the same people who are clamoring now for the government to take care of them.
Typical Democrats, and the same people that this last election was a movement against.
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11-12-2016, 04:23 PM
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You admit you don't know why. You therefore do not have grounds to say they are less good than you, that there must be something wrong with them, because they don't act like you. You might investigate deeper into human personality and motivations. A simplistic assessment of 'aptitude' leaves you not knowing why, after all.
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I don't care what they do Don. The rub with the middle class in this country was that giant sucking sound of the government taking their money to support these people, regardless of the why.
The ACA was just the latest big chunk sucked out of them.
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11-12-2016, 04:32 PM
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I don't care what they do Don. The rub with the middle class in this country was that giant sucking sound of the government taking their money to support these people, regardless of the why.
The ACA was just the latest big chunk sucked out of them.
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I have this odd feeling that the suck is not going to go away, from your wallet, unless you have enough income that Trump wants to take care of you. ACA will stay, just rebranded, and military spending up, and infrastructure spending up....
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11-12-2016, 04:33 PM
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Not exactly, there were seven original stock holders. They sold a pretty meaningless amount of stock to the new people if they wanted it. Basically, if you stayed there long enough and were young enough to begin with the rest of them simply retired. There were three stock holders left when I retired and the youngest bought two of us out. He owns it outright now.
When somebody retired the company bought the stock and their shares went away.
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11-12-2016, 04:36 PM
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I have this odd feeling that the suck is not going to go away, from your wallet, unless you have enough income that Trump wants to take care of you. ACA will stay, just rebranded, and military spending up, and infrastructure spending up....
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Maybe. But, it was a giant tax increase on the middle class. You get put all the dressing on it you want and it will not change that at all.
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