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Old 10-27-2015, 05:52 PM
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Anyone agree with CNNs 'expert cop' on the following?

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If an officer decides to make an arrest, Houck said, he or she "can use whatever force is necessary."

"So if you don't comply with my wishes ... then I can do whatever it takes to get you out of that seat and put handcuffs on you," said Houck, a former New York police detective.
'Whatever is necessary.' Good ol' necessity--you can justify anything with it. If he felt it necessary, he could have gotten her out of the seat by pulling his gun and shooting her, right?

That's unless others besides the cop have to agree about the necessity. In that case, the cop is in a world of trouble, because both the local sherriff. who has suspended him without pay, and the school administrator are on record saying he was bang out of line.

BTW Ike, did you watch the video? You may pooh-pooh the level of violence, but it looks to me like he ran a fine risk of breaking the girl's neck. Would you want a cop getting that brutal with someone you felt was a worthy human being, with rights one is bound to respect? Whose life mattered, in other words?
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Old 10-27-2015, 05:53 PM
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I'm a little confused. You're replied to a comment I made to Boreas. If you go back and look at my reply to you I made no such suggestion that you were claiming that the girl was an innocent victim.
I stand corrected. I got caught up in the flow of the conversation.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:02 PM
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Perhaps he was too rough, John. But little missy ODD is not without fault in this incident. When the cop says move, just STFU and move. There will be a hundred civil rights lawyers beating down your door to get you your pound of flesh at a later date.
This is Zeke speak.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:05 PM
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I'm a little confused. You're replied to a comment I made to Boreas. If you go back and look at my reply to you I made no such suggestion that you were claiming that the girl was an innocent victim.
Well, Ike, I never claimed she was innocent either so my comment to Rajoo stands. You can't defend your position without misrepresenting the opinions of those who disagree with you.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:09 PM
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This cop is into powerlifting in a big way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yR4qnaJDf8

Anybody who is into it to that extent and pushing that much weight is on the juice, guaranteed.

What you are seeing in that classroom is an example of roid rage.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:10 PM
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When I was 18 and waited too long to respond to a lawful direction from a copper to get off my ass and exit the area, I should have got off so easy.
So what. Not that I don't care that you were mistreated by a cop...... Okay. Scratch that.

Still, the fact that something similar to the SC incident happened to you doesn't make it okay. In fact, the human response to a situation like that is to sympathize with other victims because you have a true appreciation of what they've experience.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:13 PM
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This cop is into powerlifting in a big way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yR4qnaJDf8

Anybody who is into it to that extent and pushing that much weight is on the juice, guaranteed.

What you are seeing in that classroom is an example of roid rage.
From what I read, he was a linebackers coach for their football team and a strength & conditioning coach. He probably felt compelled to maintain his macho image if the girl gave him some lip, which seems more than probable.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:20 PM
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He lifts in the 275 lbs weight class.

He weighed in at 264.8 at this meet.

http://www.southernpowerlifting.com/...lts.php?id=163

He lifts in the "multi-ply" division.

That means he uses those suits that it takes about three people to help you put it on. They kind of make you spring loaded so that you can lift a lot more.

http://liftbigeatbig.com/raw-vs-gear...ng-difference/

Guys who use those have got huge egos.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:27 PM
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From what I read, he was a linebackers coach for their football team and a strength & conditioning coach. He probably felt compelled to maintain his macho image if the girl gave him some lip, which seems more than probable.
I guess throwing a high school girl across a classroom made this this 265 lbs. powerlifting roid head feel like a big man.
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:49 PM
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All I know is what I saw in the video, which isn't much. But, what I saw does seem excessive. I have a hard time believing it took that much force to extract her from the seat and restrain her.
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