Obama whips out his Hatchet...heeeeeeyaaaaw!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Not sure where you live but neither stimulus did shit and we are on the brink of a depression.

California, like it says on all my posts. Things are bad here but not as bad as where you are.

Sorry but I am tired of the news telling us how much better things have gotten. Bullshit the only ones its gotten better for is wallstreet and they can kiss my ass.

Things are better, as opposed to good. More importantly, things aren't worse which they certainly would be if Obama hadn't taken the steps he did. You didn't really expect Obama could undo 8 years of Bush in only 1 year, did you?

John

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Ever read, "Who moved my Cheese"? That silly corporate propaganda rag all of the large corporate employers are handing out? That's exactly what they're telling people, Dave. It has some good points but...............

Dave

Never heard of it but. Just going by what my gut tells me. And my gut tells me states like Michigan will never regain even a small portion of the jobs that were lost.

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Boreas

California, like it says on all my posts. Things are bad here but not as bad as where you are.



Things are better, as opposed to good. More importantly, things aren't worse which they certainly would be if Obama hadn't taken the steps he did. You didn't really expect Obama could undo 8 years of Bush in only 1 year, did you?

John

Nope I did not expect a quick change. Were talking politics here

What I did hope for was for the change that he campaigned on. The only thing were getting is the bill.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Never heard of it but. Just going by what my gut tells me. And my gut tells me states like Michigan will never regain even a small portion of the jobs that were lost.

Nope, not for a very long time at least. And not the same kind of jobs, certainly nothing that provides the strong wages the auto and steel industry once did, Dave.

Dave

P.s., I created a new thread dedicated to this book. Under "economy".

[finnbow]

For those criticizing Obama for what he's done on the economy since the election (and I have slung some of this criticism), put on your "hypothetical thinking cap" and project what you think would have occurred if McCain/Palin had won. Don't forget while offering you conjecture that McCain dismissed the notion that the economy was even in trouble as things were imploding around him.

I, for one, think he would have been forced to do virtually the exact same thing in terms of the stimulus package. I think he would now be sucking up to the banks instead of picking a fight FWIW. I don't think the country would be any further along toward recovery under his stewardship, however. For the right-leaning folks here, if you believe we would be further along, be specific as to why you believe this to be true.

[Grumpy]

I don't like to dwell too much on what ifs. Pretty sure we were hosed either.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by finnbow

For those criticizing Obama for what he's done on the economy since the election (and I have slung some of this criticism), put on your "hypothetical thinking cap" and project what you think would have occurred if McCain/Palin had won. Don't forget while offering you conjecture that McCain dismissed the notion that the economy was even in trouble as things were imploding around him.

I, for one, think he would have been forced to do virtually the exact same thing in terms of the stimulus package. I think he would now be sucking up to the banks instead of picking a fight FWIW. I don't think the country would be any further along toward recovery under his stewardship, however. For the right-leaning folks here, if you believe we would be further along, be specific as to why you believe this to be true.

Had McCain and Palin won we would be strapped with the combined lowest IQ"s
to ever be elected pres and vp.

Stupid folks make stupid judgments.
That is just a simple fact.
We would be in a world of hurt if grandpa and dim bulb were elected.
I really have to wonder what is wrong with a party that would even offer them up.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Never heard of it but. Just going by what my gut tells me. And my gut tells me states like Michigan will never regain even a small portion of the jobs that were lost.

You guys have to reinvent yourselves. Think outside the box. Light some bridges, slap some boards painted with drapes on them over the busted out windows. Hand out clean needles on the street corners. Have your entire government arrested. You know, get the money folks moving back in

Originally Posted by finnbow

... I think he would now be sucking up to the banks instead of picking a fight FWIW. ....

I'd think it'd be kinda hard to pick a fight when you're grabbing your ankles. Oh wait, you're talking McCain.

Pete