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Old 06-12-2014, 11:55 AM
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It is also a fact that Republicans have had the majority for the last two terms in the house and are operating under the Hastert rule. So where is the room for compromise if a vote is not even allowed on the floor most of the time.

"The Hastert Rule, also known as the "majority of the majority" rule, is an informal governing principle used by Republican Speakers of the House of Representatives since the mid-1990s to maintain their speakerships[1] and limit the power of the minority party to bring bills up for a vote on the floor of the House.[2] Under the doctrine, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives will not allow a floor vote on a bill unless a majority of the majority party supports the bill.[3]"

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Yes. In a negotiation, both sides present their positions, and then negotiations proceed from there. According to Woodward, there was no offer from the Prez to negotiate. Rather, the response was: "Look at the polls. The polls are pretty good for me right now.” He then told Cantor, “Elections have consequences and Eric, I won."
i.e., "I won, give something up."

Negotiating from strength is still negotiation.

It's the Republicans who got pissy.
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i.e., "I won, give something up."

Negotiating from strength is still negotiation.

It's the Republicans who got pissy.
And, that's putting it nicely.

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Oh, bite me!



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Up yours, smarty pants!
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So please enlighten me: what are the core conservative principles that most folks don't buy into? And lets skip the too-cute responses like "rascim": that's political BS. What are the core economic and social core conservative principles that Americans reject?
I won't mention racism, you did already. OTOH, most people find xenophobia, gun fetishism, militarism, science denial, and the damage wrought by supply-side economics pretty unappealing. "Core conservative principles" is a talk radio euphemism for all of the above. When I hear the likes of Sarah Palin, Louie Gohmert, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh sing the virtues of common-sense conservatism, I run for the door.

In politics, demographics are destiny and fashioning an agenda that focuses on fostering resentment among angry, undereducated, old white folks isn't exactly a winning formula.
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"Supply Side Economics"

The ingenious plan to save the American consumer money by sending his job overseas.

How's that working out?

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