Negotiating with the Taliban

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

They WERE the leadership of Afghanistan before they were forcibly removed. They are NOW a fundamentalist political movement in Afghanistan, and as this weekend's activity demonstrates, still very much interested in terrorism.

While Iran maybe a STATE sponsor of terrorism, they are still a STATE.

Anyone who quibbles about definitions this compulsively is either 1) schizophrenic, or 2) ridiculously PARTISAN.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by whell

No, I'm not drawing a direct line between the release of Bergdahl and the events this weekend in Pakistan. However, I think its work reminding ourselves exactly who we negotiated with, and have now by extension recognized as an international entity. 23 dead, and the Taliban have claimed responsibility.

http://www.hometownlife.com/usatoday/article/10220535

According to BBC news the Taliban claims it is a reprisal for a drone attack.

[Dondilion]

A look at drone strikes in Pakistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

According to BBC news the Taliban claims it is a reprisal for a drone attack.

Also according to BBC news the Taliban in Pakistan is not affiliated with the Taliban in Afghanistan.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

They WERE the leadership of Afghanistan before they were forcibly removed. They are NOW a fundamentalist political movement in Afghanistan, and as this weekend's activity demonstrates, still very much interested in terrorism.

While Iran maybe a STATE sponsor of terrorism, they are still a STATE.

The fact remains that we went to war against Afghanistan ruled by the Taliban. Another factoid - these 5 bad guys were held for 10 years and never charged or prosecuted for any crime. They were POW's.

[Ike Bana]

And I suppose the question might arise that who TF are we to invade a sovereign nation because we don't like who it's government chooses for it's friends? Who it gives aid and comfort to? Lots of countries give aid and comfort to enemies of this country. If we were to believe the propaganda we were fed by our government, every sovereign communist bloc country (including Cuba) provided aid and comfort to enemies of this country for over 40 years.

But all of a sudden because a pack of fanatics, most of whom were Saudi's (otherwise our long-term trusted allies), managed to pull off 9/11 under the noses of the CIA, FBI, NSA, and AFLCIO...we go marching in to a shithole like Afghanistan. Why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia...oh no, can't do that, we need cheap gas for our POS Chevy Suburbans.

Perhaps we should have gone marching into Russia in 1955 or 1965 or 1975 for giving aid and comfort to enemies of this country, and had our asses handed to us on a plate. Nah let's go for some of that low hanging political fruit...let's invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama and Grenada. We even got our asses handed to us on a plate by the Vietnamese for christ's sake.

[Pio1980]

Also why Saddam was to be the example to other bad actors like Iran and North Korea, and we see how well that went.

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[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

And I suppose the question might arise that who TF are we to invade a sovereign nation because we don't like who it's government chooses for it's friends? Who it gives aid and comfort to? Lots of countries give aid and comfort to enemies of this country. If we were to believe the propaganda we were fed by our government for, every sovereign communist bloc country (including Cuba) provided aid and comfort to enemies of this country for over 40 years.

But all of a sudden because a pack of fanatics, most of whom were Saudi's (otherwise our long-term trusted allies), managed to pull off 9/11 under the noses of the CIA, FBI, NSA, and AFLCIO...we go marching in to a shithole like Afghanistan. Why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia...oh no, can't do that, we need cheap gas for our POS Chevy Suburbans.

Perhaps we should have gone marching into Russia in 1955 or 1965 or 1975 for giving aid and comfort to enemies of this country, and had our asses handed to us on a plate. Nah let's go for some of that low hanging political fruit...let's invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama and Grenada. We even got our asses handed to us on a plate by the Vietnamese for christ's sake.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Nice to finally know what you look like. That said...what? You disagree?

[donquixote99]

Someone told 427 that with his writing skill, he's better off sticking to pure pictures.