ACLU FIles Lawsuit over NSA Phone Surveillance

[barbara]

Originally Posted by whell

Who would those be Barb?

This conservative never supported vacuuming up phone records for domestic calls. So, if you're referring to me, please show me a post where I supported this.

Feeling a bit defensive there, Whell?
😉

I don't recall pointing the finger specifically at anyone person.

[whell]

Originally Posted by barbara

Feeling a bit defensive there, Whell?
😉

I don't recall pointing the finger specifically at anyone person.

Ain't too many "conservatives" in this thread, and the one that's here started this thread.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by barbara

Feeling a bit defensive there, Whell?
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I don't recall pointing the finger specifically at anyone person.

The way I took it was that you meant the parade of idjits in the House & Senate and maybe the talking heads over at Faux news.

Rand Paul has been running his mouth all over the place but then I have trouble differentiating between the garden variety seditious tea sippers and conservatives these days.

[BlueStreak]

And then there is the latest; http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/12/politics/nsa-leak

The U.S. government spies on other countries, even Communist countries? Wow, there's a newsflash.

This guy is going down. Something tells me whether it's a Dem or a Rep makes no difference. They are gonna stick this pig one way or another. The original leak was one thing, this is entirely different. Look for Snowden to get charged with treason, folks.

Dave

[piece-itpete]

Give'em a good yank Chas!

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

And the Patriot Act bears GW Bushs signature.

If we were to halt the NSA from gathering this information, then suffer another 9/11-like event in say, two or three years, I wonder how many of these short-sighted people posting "Obama is Listening" crap all over my FB page would be demanding to know why "Obama" didn't detect it and stop it, before it happened?

My guess is;

Every last one of them.

It's because they are stupid and blinded by their distaste for a single man, Pete.

Dave

Big exception though. When Bush signed the Patriot Act into law (with a sunset provision) the left screamed bloody murder. Remember this?

'If we do [insert government surveillance program] Al Qaeda has won!'

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

That should hold about two, maybe three days of all telephone calls here in the USA, ignoring the foreign ones. Hardly sufficient to develop a pattern.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

That should hold about two, maybe three days of all telephone calls here in the USA, ignoring the foreign ones. Hardly sufficient to develop a pattern.

If you believe the NSA and the news stories, they're not retaining voice files with this particular effort. They're only grabbing the metadata. Seems that size of storage would be plenty sufficient.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

If you believe the NSA and the news stories, they're not retaining voice files with this particular effort. They're only grabbing the metadata. Seems that size of storage would be plenty sufficient.

Oh I believe that is all they are keeping, it just seems the media and the hoi poloi believe they are recording everything. Guess some are worried that their wives might find out about those sites they browse.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Give'em a good yank Chas!



Big exception though. When Bush signed the Patriot Act into law (with a sunset provision) the left screamed bloody murder. Remember this?

'If we do [insert government surveillance program] Al Qaeda has won!'

Pete

Yeah, so? In case you haven't noticed some of them are screamimg bloody murder now, and some Republicans are defending the NSA. The Turtle mentioned something about "treason" in regards to Snowden, recently.
And, I happen to agree with him, in light of the most recent developments, BTW.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

If you believe the NSA and the news stories, they're not retaining voice files with this particular effort. They're only grabbing the metadata. Seems that size of storage would be plenty sufficient.

Yup, there's no way they are recording every conversation. Now, if someone happens to be talking to a suspected jihadist or a ginned up teabagger bent on sedition and the violent overthrow of the government, I hope they are recording them and also preparing a case and a cell for them in one of those supermax prisons, once they cross the line into criminal conspiracy.