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07-11-2012, 01:03 PM
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Idiotic thing to say? Are you telling me there has not been a decline in the private pension plans in the last 25 years? I am sure if your pension had gone under or you were at the mercy of a 401k tied to the stock market you would not be so happy Whelly. As long as its not your pension right?
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Selfishness is most certainly a tenet of modern day American conservatism.
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07-11-2012, 01:20 PM
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Kind of an idiotic thing to say, IMHO. First, there are a number of large companies that still offer pensions. As far as health care, no worries. Obama fixed health care with PPACA. 
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Operatative word a number...you did not say many or alot. By the way Whell,
does this company of yours do any work for any government agency in your state, either local, state or Federal? I am assuming since you are fortunate enough to have a penison plan your employer is a large one. And does government work contracts? Or am I idiotic?
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07-11-2012, 01:25 PM
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What, me worry?
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I don't think desiring decent roads is selfish.
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07-11-2012, 01:41 PM
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I don't think desiring decent roads is selfish.
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How about bridges?
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07-11-2012, 01:42 PM
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I don't think desiring decent roads is selfish.
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No, but wanting decent roads at everyone else's expense is.
Regards,
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07-11-2012, 01:43 PM
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Not selfish but wanting them without paying for them is.
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07-11-2012, 01:47 PM
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What, me worry?
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I pay the same percentage of my income I always did. As a matter of fact, 1/4 percent more, PLUS all the fees that used to be included. So a handful of people can retire at 55?
Here in Ohio a while back we had a novel concept to fix bridges. We passed a large, narrowly defined, set time limit tax specifically for them. And yes, I voted for it.
Pete
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07-11-2012, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Operatative word a number...you did not say many or alot. By the way Whell,
does this company of yours do any work for any government agency in your state, either local, state or Federal? I am assuming since you are fortunate enough to have a penison plan your employer is a large one. And does government work contracts? Or am I idiotic?
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1. No
2. No
3. No comment.
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07-11-2012, 04:44 PM
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[QUOTE=bobabode;111982]
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Originally Posted by whell
Yup. Dems suing dems because the they've sucked the public trough dry. Then watch the blame game start.
Cities all over the the country are under financial stress or going into bankruptcy because they're overspent. One of the biggest financial challenges that most cities face is trying to figure out how to fund their pension obligations for pensions that far more generous than the private sector. They're trying to figure out how to cover the nut for health care costs, which are typically more generous than the private sector. Since these cost have been rising for years and administrations like Scranton have kicked the can down the road, the costs are now beyond what the cities can sustain.
See? Ain't that hard to figure.[/QUOTE]
I guess not if you've nothing more than fill in the blanks, form letter political idealogy whellie. Scranton has been losing it's tax base since the 1950s.The town was in the shitter long before the Great Recession which is the proximate cause of these budget shortfalls. Which party was responsible for that? Your slavish mindset that the Democratic Party are hogs at the public trough is laughable. You're simpleminded parroting of the paint by numbers philosophy of the teabaggers may sound intelligent when standing in front of a mirror whellie but here it's pretty much a joke. Try again. 
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That explains Scranton. Now explain the rest littered across the country. Hell, I just heard San Bernardino is going BK.
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07-11-2012, 04:48 PM
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[QUOTE=bhunter;112043]
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That explains Scranton. Now explain the rest littered across the country. Hell, I just heard San Bernardino is going BK.
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Stockton and Vallejo too. Vallejo's actually fairly old news.
John
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