All together now, children!

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

Figgered most folks would be glad to see me gone for awhile.

Not me man,you are the reasonable voice of the right here.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

A Glock ?!? Pffffft...My FALs, HK-91, M-1A1, Garand, BM-59, AR-10, or AR-15s can Take Care of Business...The Uzi on "Rock 'n' roll" ain't too shabby, neither... But if it must be a handgun, the .50 Desert Eagle, the .50 Model 500 S&W, or the .45 Win Mag Wildey do a pretty good job of Ventilating Things...An' those are just my 1st String...w/about 120 loudenboomers, I gots PLENTY of "depth"....Gots a Glock, too, but IIRC, its a 9 MikeMike, "Crunchenticker' caliber...

Hell Sandy, surprised yew ain't got a "real" rifle...sumptin' that's at least a .40 cal or up, follered by Gibbs, Rigby, Nitro Express, or sumptin' like that.

Ain't too many pachyderms runnin' loose down there in Tennessee?

But yew do have a fair amount of them "hand cannons". Don't they sting yer paw a little when you touch them off?

Chas

[Sandy G]

Nope. They don't sting a little...They sting A LOT ! The Nifty Fifty S&W, at least now they load it in a "50 Special", which is like a .38 special is to a .357. Still its about like touching off a mild-load .44 Maggie...And I've just always liked the heavy-duty military hardware, like .308s...Still kicking myself, there was a Belgian FAL w/200 rounds of Lake City, & 20 clips, all as new, in Louisville, KY back in '89 for $700 for the whole mess...Nowadays, that would set you back $2500, anyway. Man, that gun did some serious talkin' to me...I was datin' this gal, she was with me & got her drawers all in a wad over it, so I passed, but shoulda called my buddy who was there & lived in Louisville, after we got back here & Sweet Thaing went home, to go back & get it for me...

[Fast_Eddie]

Yeah, I'm a gonna build me a nuke and put it in my basement. I'm a gonna hook her up to a switch on the front door with a sign. He he, them crooks are a gonna think twice about breakin' inta my house.

Can't have ya too much fire power fellers! Thats the Amurikin way.

[Sandy G]

"Peace Thru Superior Firepower", me lad....Seriously, altho I doubt anyone will believe me, I REALLY like my guns more from a workmanship & historical perspective than I care about shooting...There are a FEW that I really like to shoot..My S&W 41 is a 22 target pistol,& you can literally chase a tin can all over a field w/it..I have a couple of rifles that are target match grade, too. The FALs ? They were called "The Free World's Right Arm" they were used by something like 90 countries, the USA being conspicuous by their absense in using them. They also are an incredibly well-made firearm, as befits their makers, FN Herstal in Belgium. The AK-47 ? Well, ANY gun that has 55 million copies & counting is significant. AKs aren't pretty, but they're extremely robust, & will go "Bang !" virtually every time they're called upon. I could go on, & I'll agree, no, NOBODY needs over 100 guns... or more than 1 cheapo radio...Or anything more than a gray 4-door sedan...or 1 19" $59 special Wally-World TV...But some of us WANT a little more than that.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

I doubt anyone will believe me, I REALLY like my guns more from a workmanship & historical perspective than I care about shooting...

I'm just pullin' your chain. Ya'll started sounding mighty "Amurikan" there for a minute. I could just hear Jeremy Clarkson asking how many people you've murdered because he just knows that all Americans have guns and murder from time to time.

I have no doubt. I have a friend back in Nor Cal (almost Berkeley even) who restores and enjoys old guns the way I like old cars. My wife was an expert marksman when she was in the National Guard. She'd like to go shooting again, and I wouldn't mind trying my hand. But neither of us want a gun in the house. I'm sure there are places that have guns we could shoot. I should look into it again.

Take care,

Ed

[merrylander]

I put in a simple burglar alarm system, metal plate on all the window sills wired to a big switch. Other side of the switch goes to a 40 amp 220 volt breaker in the main panel. If he is standing on the wet ground and grabs the window sill his dying screams are the alarm.

[painter]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I put in a simple burglar alarm system, metal plate on all the window sills wired to a big switch. Other side of the switch goes to a 40 amp 220 volt breaker in the main panel. If he is standing on the wet ground and grabs the window sill his dying screams are the alarm.

My friend...you suprise me. Just goes to show you...we all have a little larceny in our hearts and a lot of home security. Just hope one of those feral cats you feed don't come in contact with it...I love animals especially cats.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I put in a simple burglar alarm system, metal plate on all the window sills wired to a big switch. Other side of the switch goes to a 40 amp 220 volt breaker in the main panel. If he is standing on the wet ground and grabs the window sill his dying screams are the alarm.

Rob, old buddy, I don't want to be a turd in the punch bowl, but if you are actually doing this, and it works, you will be convicted of murder. Same thing as wiring a 12 ga. to the front door, considered to be a trap, and very illegal.

Besides, I would think that wiring a 240V breaker in this manner would result in a direct short, thus blowing the breaker. Unless you have a load, like the poor, screaming SOB, who you would be cooking like a big chicken. In other words, you're shorting out both sides of your service panel. You have to have a load, or resistance.

Now don't get me wrong, I actually tried to do this down in Texas to catch a thief, only I did it wrong. I wired the hot and grounded wire (not the grounding wire...case ground) to a metal Skilsaw handle, which even blew the breaker that I had filled with model airplane glue the night before. Long before the thief showed up. Had it worked, I would have taken out a transformer, long before the thief showed up.

Besides, all you need is 120VAC. Take it from one who's been there, you get hooked with 120V and grounded, you CANNOT turn loose, the breaker ain't gonna blow, and unless some crazy bastard that looks like a pirate figures out what's happening, and tackles you, the hot saw, the aluminum ladder, in the mud, and somehow breaks the connection, you're gonna die. I spent a good 30-45 seconds getting cooked before this guy saved my life. Damn wonder we're both not dead.

This was back when I was 20 yrs old, doubt if I would fare so well now.

Besides, I know your only bullshittin'. Use an electric fencer, high volts, low amps (it's the amps that kill ya), and electricity will scare the bejesus out of everybody. Ya can't see it, and it hurts like hell. I doubt if your average perp is an electrical engineer.

FYI, another slick trick I learned form one of the city lineman, who was an electrical engineer, with a degree from Rolla. The lead from a pencil will conduct electricity. Back when the city cops were required to turn on the Christmas Lights, which amounted to screwing in a fuse to a socket, he would take a pencil, draw a line onto the insulated part of the fuse to the contacting part. When things were damp, it tended to "sting" the local cops.

The city engineer, who was nobody's fool, and while he saw a certain amount of humor it is, made him quit. Bill picked up on it from the getgo, proabaly Bill who showed Lotto how to do it in the 1st place. Sadly, they're both dead now...always loved a character, and both of them were, in spades.

Chas

[Twodogs]

It's the volts that jolts, and mills that kills. I think ol Rob may be pullin our legs.