Why don't ?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

The only reason I'm still alive is because God gets such a kick out of tormenting me.

Kind of like cooking an ant with a magnifying glass...real slow.

Chas

lol

[Grumpy]

Just curious, did any of you have family that was over there during this time ?

[noonereal]

not I, my ancestors came over pre WW I.

[Grumpy]

I had some that were here but my moms entire family did not come over until Shanghai allowed them to leave in 49.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Now prayer in public schools is not right to me. Religion is between the person practicing it and their "god", gooberment has no place stepping in the middle.

Agreed. I would add, "Or lending it's (government) considerable influence to advance a particular religion." A room full of kids being forced to share a moment of prayer led by a teacher who insists it be in the context of his or her religious beliefs is wrong. Unless it is a privately run, religion based school. That's different.

I will agree with the Bible thumpers that it's also wrong for the government to force people to refrain from displaying religious icons during holy days, (Manger Scenes, Menorrahs, and so on.). I've never understood why people take such offense. I was raised a Methodist. But, it never offends me to see a Star of David, a Star and Crescent, a Bhudda, a Shiva or a sign promoting Atheism. I find the diversity makes life all the more interesting.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

When you consider that history was mostly written by the victors are you surprised to find bias?

Didn't Churchill make a snied remark about this very thing, Rob?

Dave

[merrylander]

I believe something along the lines of "History will be kind to me for I intend to write it."

[BlueStreak]

Ah, yes. That's the one.

Along with, "I may be drunk, Ma'am. But you are urgly. And in the morning I shall be sober."

Dave

[piece-itpete]

They taught it when I was in school, but I learned more as a kid from the specials on PBS.

Also, evey year they started at the explorers and worked up to the present, so later events (like ww2) got short thrift (we ran out of time).

School history books are weak, often misleading. Modern folks have little stomach for the evil of man. They like their people are nice theories, and history refutes this.

I've got a great little read on this topic but for the life of me can't remember the author! Tomorrow for sure.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

They taught it when I was in school, but I learned more as a kid from the specials on PBS.

Also, evey year they started at the explorers and worked up to the present, so later events (like ww2) got short thrift (we ran out of time).

School history books are weak, often misleading. Modern folks have little stomach for the evil of man. They like their people are nice theories, and history refutes this.

I've got a great little read on this topic but for the life of me can't remember the author! Tomorrow for sure.

Pete

I totally agree, Pete.

Dave