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Old 08-29-2010, 09:22 PM
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Take a look at that aerial photo.

There is nowhere near a million people in that photo.

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Old 08-29-2010, 10:20 PM
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Dezcor, welcome and thanks for bringing in some perspective.

John, one thing about your post made me shudder. I had never really thought of Beck and Limaugh as charismatic figures, but I guess that is right. I recognized that Reagan had some charisma. Hearing Obama on the campaign trial, I thought his eloquence carried its own type of charisma. But Rush and Beck (and Palin)- to me they have as much charisma as Lucretia McEvil.

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They make my skin crawl, and I mean that literally, but one can't escape the fact that for many people they possess a power that can only be described as charismatic. You know, history is replete with examples of thoroughly odious people whose influence over others was mind-boggling. Off the top of my head, Rasputin, Hitler and Jim Jones come to mind.

Now, lest you wonder whether I might be comparing these three to the current "trinity" of Limbaugh, Beck and Palin, let me assure you that I am.

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Old 08-29-2010, 10:44 PM
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Kind of funny that amid all of this O'Reilly almost sounds like the voice of reason. If we needed any more evidence about how low public discourse has sunk, that is it.

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Old 08-30-2010, 12:15 AM
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Kind of funny that amid all of this O'Reilly almost sounds like the voice of reason. If we needed any more evidence about how low public discourse has sunk, that is it.

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No kidding.

The last time I tuned in to Limbaughs show, there was a man who claimed to have been a longtime supporter, screaming at him. I didn't catch the entire conversation, but I did catch the sentence, "I've finally realized what you and your kind are all about." Then he launched into a tyrade about the "devaluation of work", declining wages and lack of health coverage for "people who DO work", vanishing pensions, etc., etc. Of course Limbaugh cut him off and denounced him as an "imposter" and a "union nutbag" then went on to angrily spew his usual bullshit about "...rediculous hourly wages and lavish benefits going to people who barely show up for work..."

What world does he live in? Why, a world where one gets $50,000,000 a year to sit on his fat ass and bitch at a microphone, of course. Maybe he's "projecting"?

Right wingers have long complained that American workers are not incentivized because "they have everything handed to them".

Where will the incentive be when they are done making sure work isn't worth the bother?

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Old 08-30-2010, 12:46 AM
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The workers retire in their late fifties, early sixties, because they have carpal tunnel syndrome, degenerative disk disease, bad knees, and have generally used their bodies up with years of demanding labor. The execs might retire in their fifties, however, because they have a golden parachute when they are sacked. Or maybe, they put that in the bank and get hired by cronies on boards where they have served. They can keep working late in life as long as their cunning is intact. In their minds their talent is "unique" while the workers are fungible. Parts get worn out, you discard and replace them. No need for those entitlements (gasp) for worn out parts is there?

Why do the people, who are at risk for losing what they contributed toward their retirement, so enamored by those who would balance the budget on their already tired backs.

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Old 08-30-2010, 06:23 AM
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Overpaid and underworked my arse, ten hour days are the norm here, two weeks vacation if you are lucky. The only difference from the plantation days is that you are now an economic slave.
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My 4 years of work in a union shop wer the worst I ever had. I went 97 days in a row once without a day off. These were days up to 14 hours long. I averaged 27 days a yar that I had off(this was holidays, weekends and vacations combined). Yeah, I made unbelievable ampounts of money, but nearly at the cost of my health and my family.
Union couldn't protect us, in fact, that is why they worked us so hard, to bust us.

What a mess.

Oh, back to beck,
I am feeling violently ill about now.
What irks me are the folks who I have heard talk about him They are all up in praise, they have done little to no research on him. He is just another overpaid face and voice(an actor) to lead the mindless.
I told my mother(extreme right winger) taht everything tha comes out of his mouth is written and orchestrated by a huge team of workers behind the scene. Fox dictates to him what he says. We all know this(more or less).

Whooo, she blew a few gaskets at that. Hope she feels better now.
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:00 AM
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My 4 years of work in a union shop wer the worst I ever had. I went 97 days in a row once without a day off. These were days up to 14 hours long. I averaged 27 days a yar that I had off(this was holidays, weekends and vacations combined). Yeah, I made unbelievable ampounts of money, but nearly at the cost of my health and my family.


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Same story here with one exception I was in management to I was not compensated for all the extra hours.

Corporate America is a bad system for the American worker. IMHO
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:15 AM
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Corporate America is a bad system for the American worker.
QFT

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Old 09-03-2010, 07:32 AM
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QFT? means what?
sorry, i am way behind
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