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04-26-2021, 07:31 AM
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If "Agent Orange" had managed to stay in power vaccine distribution would be down to a sort of Hunger Games between the states. Except the states run by Repubs because they would still be pursuing herd immunity. Herd immunity sans vaccinations AKA survival of the fittest.
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04-28-2021, 12:04 AM
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If "Agent Orange" had managed to stay in power vaccine distribution would be down to a sort of Hunger Games between the states. Except the states run by Repubs because they would still be pursuing herd immunity. Herd immunity sans vaccinations AKA survival of the fittest.
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Herd immunity isn't even possible without vaccination. As I understand it, you have to vaccinate as many people as possible to isolate the virus in ever smaller pockets until it can no longer spread. That's herd immunity. Done the Trumpist way, we would literally have had to wait for the virus to run it's course......... And what, exactly, would THAT entail? The 1918 epidemic infected an estimated five hundred million people worldwide. Trump wasn't just a terrible president, he was a friggin' monster.
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04-28-2021, 07:48 AM
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The tRumpian way to herd immunity. First you convince the populace that the pandemic isn't real. Then "oh it's real it just isn't as bad as the doctors and scientists say". IE, It's only fifteen cases and soon to be zero. Then it's things like the death toll is exaggerated or it's going to go away by itself. When a vaccine comes you have agents stoking resistance to vaccines and at the same time promoting resistance to measures to limit or slow down the spread of the virus. Thankfully Agent 45 couldn't cheat enough or overthrow the process and Biden became president. Unfortunately for the people who live there, there are still places where the herd immunity experiment isn't completely squashed.
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04-28-2021, 09:46 AM
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Trumpian concept of Herd Immunity is very simply survival of the fittest. The excuse I often heard from Trumpers was "so what, no one is dying from it", meaning those who die are from other underlying causes and Covid-19 was perhaps a minor contributing factor. Remember cries of faked death certificates from Trump claiming using Covid-19 as the cause?
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04-28-2021, 11:33 AM
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The "Herd Immunity" is being test now in India.....
Or are they faking it to make Trump look bad too?
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04-28-2021, 12:43 PM
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So called herd immunity in India is a myth. Yes, the death rates are lower than what we experience(d) here in the US, but the fear (internationally) now is that this is a new variant that has spiked the number of cases up exponentially. Also I fear that the percentage of people hoping/willing to get vaccinated is much less than 50%, perhaps even less in the south where the Covid-19 impact has been less.
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California coronavirus cases plummet despite surges in Oregon, Washington
https://news.yahoo.com/california-co...170056276.html
...because idiot Repubes have virtually no statewide power here. Vaccination rates are among the highest in the nation in Blue counties. However, there are still plenty of ignorant Red counties...
As Vaccine Demand Slows, Political Differences Go on Display in California Counties
https://khn.org/news/article/as-vacc...rnia-counties/
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“As a strongly blue state, one would expect that California is less likely than red states to hit a relatively low ceiling of vaccination, assuming that the access is good and the messaging is strong,” said Dr. Robert Wachter, chair of the department of medicine at the University of California-San Francisco School of Medicine.
As of Wednesday, 77% of seniors in California, and 68% of those ages 50 to 64, had received at least one dose of covid vaccine, according to a KHN analysis. These large percentages reflect the early vaccine eligibility of these age groups and are a hopeful sign considering how difficult it was to get a shot in the beginning of the year, said Rebecca Fielding-Miller, an assistant professor at the University of California-San Diego specializing in infectious diseases and public health.
“I’m very hopeful that addressing access would pick up at least another 10-15% before we need to really start addressing myths and hesitancy issues,” she said.
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