Violence?

[BlueStreak]

Now, back on topic. How long do you think It'll be before the Pied Piper of Heavily Armed Ignoramuses and Wannabe Sons of Liberty gives the nod to show the world what horrible people they truly are?

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

As for impeachment being a fiasco, the worst case is that after massive hearings and debate on TV, in which Republican incumbents will be forced to defend the indefensible, there will be a vote in the Senate. Some Republicans will be forced to vote for impeachment at risk of losing re-election, further besmirching Trump in the general election. Though it's likely enough that Trump will win the Senate vote, his chances in 2020 will be grossly diminished.

And if Trump manages to look bad enough that opinion flips on him in enough red states, he could be convicted in the Senate. The Senate vote is his to lose, but he's just the man who could do it.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/...bout-civil-war

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2019/...bout-civil-war

Yep....any day now.

[donquixote99]

A comment seen on FB:

By Richard Davis

21 Signs of Impending Tyranny (updated)

As tyrants take control of democracies, they typically:

1. Demand total personal loyalty from all appointees.
2. Organize military parades and other choreographed shows of force.
3. Threaten to fire independent prosecutors who get too close to the truth.
4. Spread conspiracy theories about "deep state" forces seeking to oust them.
5. Refer to top-ranking military leaders as "my" generals.
6. Threaten to jail political opponents.
7. Claim to have won an election by a landslide even after losing the popular vote.
8. Stoke tensions abroad, such as trade wars and even the specter of nuclear war, to distract from their efforts to consolidate power at home.
9. Circumvent the independent press and communicate directly with their followers.
10. Turn the public against journalists or media outlets that criticize the regime, calling them “deceitful” and “scum.”
11. Vilify legislators and judges who are critical of the regime.
12. Repeatedly claim massive voter fraud in the absence of any evidence, in order to restrict voting in subsequent elections.
13. Repeatedly tell big lies, causing the public to doubt the truth and to believe fictions that support the tyrants’ goals.
14. Blame crime on immigrants or racial or religious minorities, and foment public bias and hatred against them.
15. Threaten mass deportations, registries of religious minorities, and the banning of refugees.
16. Separate refugee children from their parents, and incarcerate all of them.
17. Attribute acts of domestic violence to “enemies within,” and use such events as excuses to beef up internal security and limit civil liberties.
18. Appoint family members to high positions of authority.
19. Draw no distinction between personal property and public property, profiteering from public office.
20. Make personal alliances with foreign dictators but express indifference if not defiance toward leaders of democracies.
21. Maintain a powerful propaganda arm that claims to be "fair and balanced" but only amplifies the tyrant's lies and accusations.

[donquixote99]

Chilling reading.

An intelligence officer reports on the loyalties if the armed forces. Civil war scenarios could result in splintered army .
https://www.thedailybeast.com/if-tru...ource=facebook

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Chilling reading.

An intelligence officer reports on the loyalties if the armed forces. Civil war scenarios could result in splintered army .
https://www.thedailybeast.com/if-tru...ource=facebook

Donq there is no mention here of China or the southern border.

[donquixote99]

Please explain what this fact means to you in the context of this piece? The significance is not obvious to me.

[Dondilion]

The writer claims to be perplexed by the significant support for Trump by members of the military despite Trump non military attendance and Trump's dissing of traditional and important military figures.

one would think that there would be some mention of Trump's loud attack on China as a factor informing this support. Many people are pissed that China was allowed to string the US along for so long and that a country which is still under the communist party benefited so much from the deindustrialization of the US. A visit to Walmart tells the story.

A soldier is not immune to the fallout. I suspect that many who are on the ramparts, have love ones, relatives, persons they know who were thrown on the scrap heap or their horizons diminished because of the heavy use of China.

Trump's loud attempt in trying to secure the southern border and strong resistance to his every move I believe would affect military personnel especially those who are trained to, expect to defend and secure other nations.

Whenever there are glaring omissions in my opinion in an article I tend to discount its integrity.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Whenever there are glaring omissions in my opinion in an article I tend to discount its integrity.

Now that's funny, coming from someone who regularly touts Fucker Carlson, who constantly lies by omission! You're delusional.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The writer claims to be perplexed by the significant support for Trump by members of the military despite Trump non military attendance and Trump's dissing of traditional and important military figures.

one would think that there would be some mention of Trump's loud attack on China as a factor informing this support. Many people are pissed that China was allowed to string the US along for so long and that a country which is still under the communist party benefited so much from the deindustrialization of the US. A visit to Walmart tells the story.

A soldier is not immune to the fallout. I suspect that many who are on the ramparts, have love ones, relatives, persons they know who were thrown on the scrap heap or their horizons diminished because of the heavy use of China.

Trump's loud attempt in trying to secure the southern border and strong resistance to his every move I believe would affect military personnel especially those who are trained to, expect to defend and secure other nations.

Whenever there are glaring omissions in my opinion in an article I tend to discount its integrity.

The core of the article isn't really 'the military culture is very pro-Trump: how irrational.' It's just 'the military culture is very pro-Trump.' Period. That bare fact is what I find chilling, and you do not seem to disagree with it.