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01-29-2017, 10:32 AM
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But John Adams famously said "There has yet to be a democracy that didn't committ suicide." Funny, it always used to be conservatives that went around quoting that one.
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Yes, but what Adams had in mind and what those "Conservatives" had in mind were two different things. Adams believed that uneducated, easily led people would elect strong-man tyrants, thus destroying Democracy. He was right.
Modern Conservatives think he was talking about food stamps. Because they are always obsessed with food stamps as the perceived "agent of destruction" that's "ruining America". That and wages that people can actually live on.
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01-29-2017, 10:40 AM
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^^^ got it right I'd say
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01-29-2017, 10:58 AM
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DHS is enforcing Trump's EO despite the court ruling.
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Where? You have any reports of this? Here is what I have read.
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On Sunday morning, the Department of Homeland Security said it would comply with the rulings while it continued to enforce all of the president’s executive orders. “Prohibited travel will remain prohibited,” it said in a statement.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/u...=top-news&_r=0
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01-29-2017, 11:29 AM
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-enjoys-losing
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“I hope Trump enjoys losing. He’s going to lose so much we’re going to get sick and tired of his losing,” ACLU national political director Faiz Shakir told Yahoo News shortly after the decision was announced.
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Faiz should have just taken his win and STFU.
But no, he let his smart mouth overload his ass and now he's on Trump's shit list.
Payback is going to be Hell for this fucker.
And by the way, wot in the hail kinda name is Faiz Shakir?
That ain't no 'Murican name.
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01-29-2017, 12:04 PM
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The table below illustrates the problem that Trump is trying to solve (i.e., there is no problem).
Not a single one of those murders were committed by people from the 7 banned countries and nearly all were committed by citizens of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the UAE (which aren't included in his ban).
https://www.cato.org/publications/po...-risk-analysis
What a bunch of feckin' clowns.
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01-29-2017, 12:13 PM
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There is a perfectly logical reason he didn't ban people from the KSA, Egypt and UAE, he's got business interests in them all. Way to put america first trump.
I guess he's not really interested in stopping terrorist from entering the country. In fact it looks more like he just want to keep the poor people out.
Unsurprising considering how selfish the american people have become. We definitely cannot share......
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01-29-2017, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-enjoys-losing
Faiz should have just taken his win and STFU.
But no, he let his smart mouth overload his ass and now he's on Trump's shit list.
Payback is going to be Hell for this fucker.
And by the way, wot in the hail kinda name is Faiz Shakir?
That ain't no 'Murican name.
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Neither is yours unless you change it to Tom Talkingshit.
To answer your question, it's not Christian, Hindu or Budhist.
I do agree that with a name like that, he should let this play out in courts. No need to antagonize Herr Trump when a whole lot of Muslims have been detained at the airports.
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01-29-2017, 12:29 PM
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There is a perfectly logical reason he didn't ban people from the KSA, Egypt and UAE, he's got business interests in them all. Way to put america first trump.
I guess he's not really interested in stopping terrorist from entering the country. In fact it looks more like he just want to keep the poor people out.
Unsurprising considering how selfish the american people have become. We definitely cannot share......
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I have a strong feeling that he has a lot of investors from SA and UAE. But then Bush gave SA a pass after 9/11 and went after Saddam.
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01-29-2017, 12:33 PM
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I read now that customs agents are checking Facebook posts and phone records of those coming into the country.
Everybody should probably scrub their social media of anything critical of Trump, his administration or American post 1/20/17. Ya never know what kind of van might show up in the middle of the night.
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01-29-2017, 12:35 PM
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I have a strong feeling that he has a lot of investors from SA and UAE. But then Bush gave SA a pass after 9/11 and went after Saddam.
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The Bush family is personal good friends with the Bin Laden family. Business partners for decades. That's why he abandoned his hunt for bin laden, his family ties were stronger than his concern for america. (like any good republican)
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