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11-29-2016, 12:01 PM
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I think this is the Trump effect. All the conspiracy theories are beginning to surface along with the Flag burning controversy to keep the low information voters in a lather.
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11-29-2016, 01:58 PM
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Cool, another Nazi comparison.
I presented facts. You just don't happen to like the facts I presented. Glad to see all of these open minds around here. 
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Facts about prognosticators and fortune tellers do not make science. My sneakers are white too. What does that have to do with global warming.
Yeah, lots of people have predicted doom, and incorrectly. However, this time science has a load of supporting evidence. One example, we are in the middle of a mass extinction. Even if it is isn't global warming, were are just as screwed. The final straw that comes is only a matter of when, that is not known.
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11-30-2016, 11:28 AM
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Yeah, lots of people have predicted doom, and incorrectly. However, this time science has a load of supporting evidence.
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The 1970 Earth Day doom and gloomers thought they had a load of supporting evidence too. They wrote books and cited all manner of "scientific studies" and findings to support their conclusions.
Speaking of a "load", have no fear. Jerry Brown has...ahem...taken matters into his own hands by regulating cow farts and cow poop. The dairy industry in California will either comply or close up shop. Since Cali is one of the nations largest producers of dairy products, anything made with dairy is going to cost more in the future, all in the name of protecting us from cow farts.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...01520160SB1383
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11-30-2016, 11:32 AM
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Not to worry, Monsanto is working on GM cattle feed containing sea weed.
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11-30-2016, 11:55 AM
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I dislike my Nazi comparison by myself - but sorry - denying Global Warming makes me FURIOUS, so I used this harsh comparison.
I am affected by Global Warming, I can see the consequences when I look into my garden, so I get the seriousness of this threat in an opressive manner. And I am not the only one here in our forum community.
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Last edited by HarmanKardon; 11-30-2016 at 12:15 PM.
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11-30-2016, 03:20 PM
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So the question is, how long do we have, and what do we do with that time?
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We are 70 feet above the 100 year flood plain and 400 feet above sea level.
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11-30-2016, 04:15 PM
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well, I am at 5400ft above sea level. No worries for me to get flooded. Water is kind of a scarce commodity here sometime though.
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11-30-2016, 06:18 PM
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The people who have the most to worry about are in the first ten feet above sea level, as they now are about 9.5 feet above sea level.
As our heat sinks get depleted, the climate swings will grow dramatically. Farmers are going to get their asses kicked.
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12-01-2016, 07:37 AM
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Not to worry, Monsanto is working on GM cattle feed containing sea weed. 
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It will stop the methane because it will probably kill the cattle if I know Monsanto/Bayer.
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12-01-2016, 09:10 AM
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Farmers are going to get their asses kicked.
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A lot of the worlds agriculture depends on spring snowmelt from the higher elevations. It will be more than just farmers getting their asses kicked when there's not enough groceries to go around.
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