The Neoliberal Echo Chamber

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by barbara

And then, there are those that are still whining about Bernie's loss.

Sorry, that's not how I see it. A Hillary nomination was engineered by the DNC whereby a Bernie loss was collateral damage. The real question should be who in their right minds even thought that Hillary could win?

People that supported Bernie have moved on, it's the people who supported H--> seem to be having sore loser issues. People that chose to vote for Hillary now has to take the blame for Trump's win?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Sorry, that's not how I see it. A Hillary nomination was engineered by the DNC whereby a Bernie loss was collateral damage. The real question should be who in their right minds even thought that Hillary could win?

People that supported Bernie have moved on, it's the people who supported H--> seem to be having sore loser issues. People that chose to vote for Hillary now has to take the blame for Trump's win?

I'm one of those but, given all available options, voting for Hillary was the only sane choice. Politics, as they say, is the art of the possible and voting for one of the impossibles is nothing less than an abdication of responsibility.

And to try to turn things back to front by asserting that the people who voted for HRC are really the ones responsible for her loss is patently ridiculous. It's all those political puritans who, because their first choice lost the nomination, voted for no-hopers like Stein or Johnson, or who simply stayed home, who are to blame for Trump. Look what your ideological purity and your righteous indignation have inflicted on us all. You must be very proud.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'm one of those but, given all available options, voting for Hillary was the only sane choice. Politics, as they say, is the art of the possible and voting for one of the impossibles is nothing less than an abdication of responsibility.

And to try to turn things back to front by asserting that the people who voted for HRC are really the ones responsible for her loss is patently ridiculous. It's all those political puritans who, because their first choice lost the nomination, voted for no-hopers like Stein or Johnson, or who simply stayed home, who are to blame for Trump. Look what your ideological purity and your righteous indignation have inflicted on us all. You must be very proud.

I am not and still do not quite know what contributed to Hillary's loss in FL, PA, MI and WI. But blaming Bernie's supporters, some of whom may not have voted, is not the answer as this will only further fragment the Democratic party. Is that what we want?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I am not and still do not quite know what contributed to Hillary's loss in FL, PA, MI and WI. But blaming Bernie's supporters, some of whom may not have voted, is not the answer as this will only further fragment the Democratic party. Is that what we want?

I'm a Bernie supporter as you well know but, when Bernie lost the nomination, I sucked it up and voted for HRC, just as Bernie urged his supporters to do.

You, on the other hand, did not and you have the gall to accuse those of us who did vote for her of being responsible for Trump's win. Your wife apparently knows better even if you don't.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Denier

The liberals might try to read it, but can't understand it.

Who left the garden gate unlocked?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'm a Bernie supporter as you well know but, when Bernie lost the nomination, I sucked it up and voted for HRC, just as Bernie urged his supporters to do.

Yeah, well apparently a lot of us didn't "suck it up"

Here's Bernie campaigning for Bernie:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politi...ct-park-crowd/

Brooklyn, New York (CNN)Bernie Sanders drew a hometown hero's crowd Sunday in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, during a rally which his campaign billed as its biggest ever. More than 28,000 turned out on the sunny spring day to see the Vermont senator who grew up in Flatbush, Brooklyn, according to Doug Lehman, who produced the event with 42 Inc.

And here's Bernie campaigning for Hillary:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...-nau/92371822/

Bernie Sanders brought his call for a “political revolution” to hundreds of voters who packed a Northern Arizona University auditorium to hear him make the case for his former rival Hillary Clinton.

As you can see, the number of people attending those events declined substantially, from "thousands", to "hundreds."

How would you interpret that?

[bobabode]

Even your precious Jill Stein has abandoned you and become a "Hillarybot", Joad. That's gotta sting.

Clinton campaign will participate in Wisconsin recount, with an eye on ‘outside interference,’ lawyer says. WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5a62aa1a4a56


The thing is IceNine, I and every Hillary supporter I know would've happily pulled the lever for Sanders had he been the nominee. In. A. Heartbeat. It's what adults do when their preferred candidate loses.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Even your precious Jill Stein has abandoned you and become a "Hillarybot", Joad. That's gotta sting.

I don't give a rat's ass about that recount shit. If the Hillarybots are dumb enough to fork over millions of dollars to fund recounts that are only going to further validate that Trump won the rust belt and the election, that's their problem.

Originally Posted by bobabode

The thing is IceNine, I and every Hillary supporter I know would've happily pulled the lever for Sanders had he been the nominee. In. A. Heartbeat.

So?

Most people would be happy to trade up from a 10 lbs sack of shit to a 10 pound sack of gold. It's the trading down that's hard.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I'm a Bernie supporter as you well know but, when Bernie lost the nomination, I sucked it up and voted for HRC, just as Bernie urged his supporters to do.

You, on the other hand, did not and you have the gall to accuse those of us who did vote for her of being responsible for Trump's win. Your wife apparently knows better even if you don't.

Live and let live John. You supported Bernie, then wound up supporting Hillary, that's your prerogative. I chose not to. Why should anyone take the blame for Hillary's loss other than Hillary, her campaign and the DNC?

My wife still cannot stop talking about how bad Trump is or is willing to discuss the reason Hillary lost. Of course she goes berserk over any criticism of Hillary like any respectable Hillarybot.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Yeah, well apparently a lot of us didn't "suck it up"

Here's Bernie campaigning for Bernie:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/politi...ct-park-crowd/



And here's Bernie campaigning for Hillary:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...-nau/92371822/



As you can see, the number of people attending those events declined substantially, from "thousands", to "hundreds."

How would you interpret that?

It means you must think Trump the most correct and admirable candidate of all, since he had the biggest rallies.