Donald Trump Lost Today. It's Over.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by barbara

The thing is.... What Bill did was have CONSENSUAL sex outside of his marriage. While I don't condone that.... It is a whole lot different than a male grabbing the genitals of a women who has NOT CONSENTED to physical contact.

There is a big difference.

The whole thing about calling Hillary an enabler is a blame the victim thing; that is why they are going after Bill when Hillary is running NOT the former President. It is a sort of sordid moral equivalency. Somehow it was all her
fault.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by mpholland

How a person feels toward women isn't high on my priority list for the things that need to be taken care of in the oval office. That being said, I don't think Hilary cares one iota about women besides herself either. She just isn't blatant about it. They are both big pretenders and I still haven't decided yet if I can even vote for the POTUS in the looming election with a clear conscience.



That's an easy spin for Trump folk. They look at the first paragraph and say "he's trying to tell them Mexicans to leave, ain't he"? Then they go to the second paragraph and say "change a couple names and you'd be talking about Bill Clinton".

Of course the OP's post is strictly about how Trump views women not its relativity to the oval office. Etiquette, diplomacy,consideration and virtue have nothing to do with politics and how to lead and communicate in difficult situations. World leaders and the people who they represent should not be concerned about how they are perceived, much less with what they are. After all, they are the leaders and the ones in charge. They get to make the rules and decide ultimately on what will happen to us..............

[Pio1980]

Defending this pompous vainglorious manchild should be getting really awkward for the 'Pubs by now, if it wasn't previously.

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[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

Such behavior is Clinton's legacy and he's still a rock star in the Dem world. He's out campaigning for his wife yet I have yet to hear any Dems suggesting that he's a liability due to his behavior. Until that happens, I'll regard all of this as faux outrage and highly selective indignation.

False equivalence, my friend.

[bobabode]

Maybe Trump can get Bill Cosby on the stump for him during these final weeks?

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, that was offensive to you, but Trump's comments weren't? WTF? Don't you expect more from a presidential candidate than you do of a couple of miscreants in a family restaurant?

Show me where I said his comments weren't offensive.

And yes, I had higher hopes for the nominees this fall for both parties, but we got what we've got. Gary Johnson, geographically challenged as he may be, is looking better every day.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Show me where I said his comments weren't offensive.

And yes, I had higher hopes for the nominees this fall for both parties, but we got what we've got. Gary Johnson, geographically challenged as he may be, is looking better every day.

He's far more than geographically challenged.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by barbara

The thing is.... What Bill did was have CONSENSUAL sex outside of his marriage. While I don't condone that.... It is a whole lot different than a male grabbing the genitals of a women who has NOT CONSENTED to physical contact.

There is a big difference.

Indeed and anyone who know says that they support this predatory pig (apologies to the pigs) is admitting they subscribe to that same level of morality in effect admitting that they have none.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Indeed. The "family values" party that thought getting a BJ from a willing Monica was an impeachable offense now stands by a guy who admitted on tape that he was entitled to sexually assault any woman he wanted to because he's a celebrity just months after his marriage to his third wife.

And, that says it all, doesn't it?

When Trump said he could kill someone on Time Square and his polls would rise, he was right.

Maybe it's the inability of some to separate reality from celebrity character? Look at ALL of the actors, t.v. personalities that certain folks think will or would have made "badass" presidents. You hear it all of the time. John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, etc., etc.............

Remember the bump Reagan got in the polls when his campaign released that picture of him on horseback with a cowboy hat on? Was Reagan ever a real cowboy? Nope. Would it really mean anything if he had been? Nope.

Are such people just dumb or is it some sort of mental illness, an inability to discern reality from fantasy?

[donquixote99]

Richard Wolffe in the Guardian: This is the point of no return for Donald Trump

Without sweeping 'white females' Trump cannot win. Romney did that, but Trump hasn't got a prayer. Not now.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...roping-apology