Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[sheltiedave]

The OJ Simpson grand jury never even knew that OJ had a set of gloves that had blood splatters on them. The OJ Simpson prosecuter did not know that the gloves did not fit OJ's hands well.

There are very few grand juries that go against what the DA is pressing for, or the converse as well.

And most grand juries are not provided with all the facts. They are given a set of Clif Notes, and then vote to proceed with issuing the charges. In a case like this, where there is a dramatic change in the physical proximity, and then in level of physical threat present, a grand jury will not be allowed the advantages that an oppositary trial has as one of its greatest strengths.

[finnbow]

If the victim were to have been a Neo-Nazi skinhead under the exact same circumstances, I bet the partisan divide on this shooting would flip 180 degrees.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If the victim were to have been a Neo-Nazi skinhead under the exact same circumstances, I bet the partisan divide on this shooting would flip 180 degrees.

The chances that the cops would shoot a Neo-Nazi skinhead under the exact same circumstances are a Helluva lot lower than the chances that they would shoot a black male.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If the victim were to have been a Neo-Nazi skinhead under the exact same circumstances, I bet the partisan divide on this shooting would flip 180 degrees.

In quite a few cases. How much one is able to care about the dead guy seems to make a difference.

Thinking about it, if a couple of extreme right-wingers* started a thread trying to whip up outrage over a skinhead martyr, I'd likely give them short shift, dismiss the eyewitnesses as unreliable, etc.

I hope if the mainstream media started featuring it, and taking it seriously, and more rational and moderate sorts expressed concern, that I'd think again.



* you said Republicans, but not all Republicans are extreme right wingers. Not quite all....

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Thinking about it, if a couple of extreme right-wingers* started a thread trying to whip up outrage over a skinhead martyr, I'd likely give them short shift, dismiss the eyewitnesses as unreliable, etc..

That did happen.

With right wing hero Cliven Bundy.

The Feds should have taken him and his gang of traitors out with a Helicopter Gunship. That would have been what I would have called a "Good Shoot".

[sheltiedave]

Are you saying we have some Neo Nazi skinheads posting? Where?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Are you saying we have some Neo Nazi skinheads posting? Where?

I said no such thing.

[icenine]

If you really think about it no one on the Police Department has really contradicted the story being told by the eyewitnesses. No incident report, no formal explanation on what happened other than Wilson's testimony in the "secret grand jury", parts of which favorable to him have been leaked. So at best Wilson will not be prosecuted and you will just have to choose which side you believe. And if the records remain secret ( I do not know if these grand jury proceedings are subject to Freedom Of Information Act laws) then it is over.

Once I read or heard someone say that the police are just evidence that society is basically corrupt on some level...in other words if all of us were good people we would not need them. I guess we do need them to put murderers and rapists and other miscreants behind bars but I come to realize that for the most part they only arrive after the damage is done and clean up the mess.

There are just too many weapons out there....no wonder the police are starting to look like the military because most of them are probably afraid with all of these open carry laws being passed. Then add that mixture in with racial tension on top of it and soon or later a powder keg is going to erupt. And whether or not Brown deserved what he got it is obvious some communities are very angry about the way they are treated by law enforcement.


I am sure there is more to come.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

If you really think about it no one on the Police Department has really contradicted the story being told by the eyewitnesses. No incident report, no formal explanation on what happened other than Wilson's testimony in the "secret grand jury", parts of which favorable to him have been leaked. So at best Wilson will not be prosecuted and you will just have to choose which side you believe. And if the records remain secret ( I do not know if these grand jury proceedings are subject to Freedom Of Information Act laws) then it is over.

Once I read or heard someone say that the police are just evidence that society is basically corrupt on some level...in other words if all of us were good people we would not need them. I guess we do need them to put murderers and rapists and other miscreants behind bars but I come to realize that for the most part they only arrive after the damage is done and clean up the mess.

There are just too many weapons out there....no wonder the police are starting to look like the military because most of them are probably afraid with all of these open carry laws being passed. Then add that mixture in with racial tension on top of it and soon or later a powder keg is going to erupt. And whether or not Brown deserved what he got it is obvious some communities are very angry about the way they are treated by law enforcement.


I am sure there is more to come.

Paragraph 1 - why would the PD come forward with anything? If they had or did would that make Wilson any more or less vulnerable to an indictment? I think not. All it would do is make the Ferguson PD more open to scorn from one pack of ideologues or another.

Paragraph 2 - Society is corrupt? Humanity is barbarous. Law enforcement is just a segment of a barbarous world.

Paragraph 3 - Agreed. Get rid of handguns.

[Rajoo]

These T-shirts are not exactly saying "we serve and protect".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3479017.html