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08-29-2022, 09:24 PM
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Thirty Years On, How Well Do Global Warming Predictions Stand Up?
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Awwww. That's cute. Look how excited you are. 
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I will take that as an admission that you got punked. Again.
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08-29-2022, 09:26 PM
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08-29-2022, 10:51 PM
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Whell is nothing but a moonstruck Magat who thinks its cute to keep posting brainless talking points, mistaking them for a rebuttal. When he posted today that Trump has done nothing wrong, that did it.
I blame it all on MSU.
PS: Read today that ice is melting in the artics, its too late to reverse it and will raise the ocean levels slowly but surely by a foot or so. No longer an if but when.
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08-30-2022, 06:25 AM
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The fact that you don't like these bills does not mean that they are not legislative achievements. I think all of them enjoy majority support.
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They're an expression of the government's priorities. Notice how most of them have no bearing on what most Americans are concerned about, and one of them is named in a way that has Orwell spinning in his grave.
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Guilty as charged. I'm intolerant of fascism whether it's tied to religion or not (It almost always is. See Item #8) If you actually want to learn more about it, read this.
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From the whack job web site you linked to:
Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
I agree that politicians use religious messaging when it suits their needs. Case in point, the 2020 election:
https://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...rats-year.aspx
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08-30-2022, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
Whell is nothing but a moonstruck Magat who thinks its cute to keep posting brainless talking points, mistaking them for a rebuttal. When he posted today that Trump has done nothing wrong, that did it.
I blame it all on MSU.
PS: Read today that ice is melting in the artics, its too late to reverse it and will raise the ocean levels slowly but surely by a foot or so. No longer an if but when.
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1) I have no idea if Trump has done anything wrong. My point has consistently been that years of multiple investigations and accusations in the media have yet to bring even an indictment.
2) A point I made earlier in this thread, but I was accused of "whistling past the graveyard."
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08-30-2022, 07:28 AM
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1) I have no idea if Trump has done anything wrong. My point has consistently been that years of multiple investigations and accusations in the media have yet to bring even an indictment.
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We found out just this week that Bill Barr's dishonest handling of the Mueller Report helped keep him from being indicted for obstruction of justice. Also, the Trump Organization has been indicted for 15 felonies by the Manhattan DA and is on trial in September and he is under criminal investigation now in NY, DC, GA and FL. And don't forget the collection of close Trump associates indicted/convicted for doing his dirty work. Oh, and he was impeached TWICE.
But you don't know if he has done anything wrong?  Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
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08-30-2022, 08:23 AM
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I have no idea if Trump has done anything wrong.
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That about says it all
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08-30-2022, 09:16 AM
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1) I have no idea if Trump has done anything wrong. My point has consistently been that years of multiple investigations and accusations in the media have yet to bring even an indictment
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Picked this up from a group of mental health professionals who have studied Trump and his cult:
When we marvel or roll our eyes at Trump supporters, we're often asking the wrong question. Instead of asking: "How can they believe this nonsense?" Better we ask: "What do they get out of being part of Trumpism that makes them so willing to suppress reasoned thought?"
There are a lot of answers to the question of what they get out of Trumpism. First and foremost is "the need to belong." They can dislike and defy the same people, share common grievances, do stuff TOGETHER. It's a brotherhood of purpose. It's easier to "believe" than think!
We're often asked if Trumpism is a cult. The short answer: YES, it is. A cult is defined by an unusual, unwavering interest or belief in a particular personality or goal, where devotion transcends reasoned thought. And when you do that, you transcend science, math, and facts.
Trumpism has become a full-on apparatus. Enablers. Amplifiers. Fox News. Talk radio. Right wing podcasts. Performative elected officials. Foreign actors, like Putin. It's spread like a plague to many millions of our most susceptible. Their fearmongering is relentless.
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08-30-2022, 09:40 AM
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We found out just this week that Bill Barr's dishonest handling of the Mueller Report helped keep him from being indicted for obstruction of justice. Also, the Trump Organization has been indicted for 15 felonies by the Manhattan DA and is on trial in September and he is under criminal investigation now in NY, DC, GA and FL. And don't forget the collection of close Trump associates indicted/convicted for doing his dirty work. Oh, and he was impeached TWICE.
But you don't know if he has done anything wrong?  Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
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That is like saying "show me the smoking gun", except the gun has stopped smoking, but all the evidence is still there. This is why he stalls and stalls.
Come to think of it, do any of us know if Osama bin Laden ever did anything wrong? Did he even visit the US?
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08-30-2022, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
1) I have no idea if Trump has done anything wrong. My point has consistently been that years of multiple investigations and accusations in the media have yet to bring even an indictment.
2) A point I made earlier in this thread, but I was accused of "whistling past the graveyard." 
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What about the government documents he took home to Mar-a-lago against the PRA and whether they were classified or the level of classification is a moot point. He then returned some not all. He then lied about having returned all. He did nothing wrong?
How about his Trump U scam?
How about stealing from his own charity?
Even an MSU grad should know that the FBI does not investigate, especially in the open unless they suspect serious wrongdoing.
Trump has done nothing wrong that I know of? Trump should be peddling the Three Wise Monkeys to his flock so they know what they look like to the rest of us.
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