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08-07-2023, 04:05 PM
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Any president that believes V. Putin over our own intelligence agencies is a security threat. Any president that grants someone a security clearance over the recommendations of intelligence experts is a security threat as much as the person issued that security clearance. Young Biden was never issued a top secret security clearance nor appointed to a position with any president's administration nor involved in any dealings with such.
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You're right that Hunter was never given a security clearance. God forbid. But there's little doubt he was acting as a foreign agent as defined by the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). Devin Archer testified to this, and email records support it. Example here. Pretty sure that Hunter was not registered, and that matter is under DOJ investigation. Joe Biden would not have been registered either, and if he was involved as it appears he may have been, that opens up some very troubling scenarios.
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Whell you don't need to keep proving how stupid you are. We already believe you.
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08-07-2023, 04:37 PM
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You're right that Hunter was never given a security clearance. God forbid. But there's little doubt he was acting as a foreign agent as defined by the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). Devin Archer testified to this, and email records support it. Example here. Pretty sure that Hunter was not registered, and that matter is under DOJ investigation. Joe Biden would not have been registered either, and if he was involved as it appears he may have been, that opens up some very troubling scenarios.
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So, are you alleging that Joe Biden was a foreign agent while he was VP (your linked email was from 2014)? I think you have completely lost your grasp on reality. The concocted Burisma story referenced therein (of Joe Biden's intervention to halt a Burisma investigation) has been completely and thoroughly debunked and the guy (Guiliani) who concocted it is facing imminent indictment in both DC and GA. You really should give it a rest and let the Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware complete his work before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
Maybe you should go back to your role as a loyal Trump defender. He's now facing 78 felony charges and 641 years in prison (and counting). He needs credulous people like you to parrot his whiny whataboutisms and claims of persecution. Get to it, Sparky.
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08-07-2023, 04:44 PM
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Let's talk about real cases shall we? As Chicks has pointed out, allegations do not count according to you, so why do you keep harping on it? Here are some facts and indictments.
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For the first 234 years of the nation’s history, no American president or former president had ever been indicted. That changed this year. Former President Donald Trump has been charged in three criminal cases and may soon be charged in a fourth. In New York, he faces 34 felony counts in connection with hush money payments to a porn star. In Florida, he faces 40 felony counts for hoarding classified documents and impeding efforts to retrieve them. In Washington, D.C., he faces four felony counts for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. And in Georgia, a local prosecutor is investigating 2020 election interference in that state.
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Now that is a record Trump and his minions should be proud of and there is lot to talk about here. Hunter, lock him up for all we care. And about Joe, get a life. Or investigate Santos. He seems to be a more accomplished though less fortunate a crook than Trump.
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08-07-2023, 04:56 PM
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Let's talk about real cases shall we? As Chicks has pointed out, allegations do not count according to you, so why do you keep harping on it? Here are some facts and indictments.
Now that is a record Trump and his minions should be proud of and there is lot to talk about here. Hunter, lock him up for all we care. And about Joe, get a life. Or investigate Santos. He seems to be a more accomplished though less fortunate a crook than Trump.
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Indeed. Santos has taken in hundreds of thousands of dollars from Chinese followers of Steve Bannon's partner-in-crime, Miles Guo ( recently indicted in a $1 billion fraud case). Whassup with that, Whell? He is a sitting member of Congress.
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08-07-2023, 06:38 PM
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Whell you don't need to keep proving how stupid you are. We already believe you.
Post 3414, item 1.
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When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... What can I say? You earned it TFL.
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08-07-2023, 06:41 PM
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Indeed. Santos has taken in hundreds of thousands of dollars from Chinese followers of Steve Bannon's partner-in-crime, Miles Guo ( recently indicted in a $1 billion fraud case). Whassup with that, Whell? He is a sitting member of Congress.
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He'll just say you're deflecting from the Biden criminality which is ironic because that is a deflection from tRump's criminality.
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08-07-2023, 06:45 PM
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So, are you alleging that Joe Biden was a foreign agent while he was VP (your linked email was from 2014)? I think you have completely lost your grasp on reality. The concocted Burisma story referenced therein (of Joe Biden's intervention to halt a Burisma investigation) has been completely and thoroughly debunked and the guy (Guiliani) who concocted it is facing imminent indictment in both DC and GA. You really should give it a rest and let the Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware complete his work before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
Maybe you should go back to your role as a loyal Trump defender. He's now facing 78 felony charges and 641 years in prison (and counting). He needs credulous people like you to parrot his whiny whataboutisms and claims of persecution. Get to it, Sparky.
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whell
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08-07-2023, 09:15 PM
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So, are you alleging that Joe Biden was a foreign agent while he was VP (your linked email was from 2014)? I think you have completely lost your grasp on reality. The concocted Burisma story referenced therein (of Joe Biden's intervention to halt a Burisma investigation) has been completely and thoroughly debunked and the guy (Guiliani) who concocted it is facing imminent indictment in both DC and GA. You really should give it a rest and let the Trump-appointed US Attorney in Delaware complete his work before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
Maybe you should go back to your role as a loyal Trump defender. He's now facing 78 felony charges and 641 years in prison (and counting). He needs credulous people like you to parrot his whiny whataboutisms and claims of persecution. Get to it, Sparky.
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Looks like I struck a nerve. You're all spun up now because I suggested it was possible that Joe Biden might have lied? That's rich!
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08-07-2023, 09:23 PM
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Indeed. Santos has taken in hundreds of thousands of dollars from Chinese followers of Steve Bannon's partner-in-crime, Miles Guo ( recently indicted in a $1 billion fraud case). Whassup with that, Whell? He is a sitting member of Congress.
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Beyond the fact that this is a whataboutism of the highest order, I agree. Santos needs to be investigated. Not only is there a DOJ probe, there's a House Ethics committee investigation. Lest you allege the the House investigation is a facade, they've actually expanded it and issued subpoenas. So, let the chips fall where they may.
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Poor Whell has lost it.
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