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01-03-2021, 06:55 PM
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I hope I'm wrong. I really really hope, but I'm getting a bad feeling about the upcoming transition to the Biden & Harris administration. What will Donny stop at to remain in power? In four years he has faced few consequences for his actions. Largely because of the Repubs in Congress and appointees in key positions. Why should he do the right thing now? Who would act to stop him? In his refusal to concede defeat in the election the majority of Republicans are OK with him trying to remain in office. How far will he go?
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01-03-2021, 10:30 PM
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There is no moral limit. There are limits, Trump lacks courage and organizational ability, and highly capable people reject his leadership and work against him. So his minions tend to be dweebs. I don't think he has anything like the cunning and personal effectiveness Hitler did in his prime. All this means his plots will be opposed and can be beaten. But a lot will be on the line Wed that should not be on the line. I'm pretty sure there will be an attempt to disrupt things at the Capitol enough to prevent the certification vote from happening.
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01-04-2021, 10:28 AM
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Alex Isenstadt @politicoalex
Utah Sen. Mike Lee - a Trump ally who helped to lead his impeachment strategy - is sending around a letter to senators expressing his opposition to the electoral college objection
LEE: "With respect to presidential elections, there is no authority for Congress to make value judgments in the abstract regarding any state’s election laws or the manner in which they have been implemented."
8:15 AM · Jan 4, 2021·Twitter Web App
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01-04-2021, 11:02 AM
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Alex Isenstadt @politicoalex
COTTON - a staunch Trump ally - says he's opposing the objection to the electoral college
Cotton: "The Founders entrusted our elections chiefly to the states—not Congress. They entrusted the election of our president to the people, acting through the Electoral College—not Congress. And they entrusted the adjudication of election disputes to the courts—not Congress."
7:13 PM · Jan 3, 2021·Twitter Web App
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01-04-2021, 01:41 PM
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This is sedition, plain and simple. No amount of playacting and rationalizing can change the fact that the majority of the Republican Party and its apologists are advocating for the overthrow of an American election and the continued rule of a sociopathic autocrat.
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That's the thing. These seditionists know what they're doing. They know and they're doing it anyway. A greater threat to our republic at the moment than any foreign adversary. Seditionists and traitors to their oath and they should be handled as such.
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01-04-2021, 01:54 PM
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Joint Statement Concerning January 6 Attempt to Overturn the Results of the Election
https://massie.house.gov/news/email/...ZQ3KBYQIDSAWB4
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Washington, DC- Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), Kelly Armstrong (R-N.D.), Ken Buck (R-Colo.), Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.) Nancy Mace (R-S.C.), Tom McClintock (R-Cal.), Chip Roy (R-Texas) released the following statement concerning the January 6 attempt to overturn the results of the election.
[...lies...]
[...more lies...]
[...then some truth...]
But only the states have authority to appoint electors, in accordance with state law. Congress has only a narrow role in the presidential election process. Its job is to count the electors submitted by the states, not to determine which electors the states should have sent.
The text of the United States Constitution, and the Twelfth Amendment in particular, is clear. With respect to presidential elections, there is no authority for Congress to make value judgments in the abstract regarding any state’s election laws or the manner in which they have been implemented. Nor does Congress have discretion to disqualify electors based on its own finding that fraud occurred in that state’s election. Congress has one job here: to count electoral votes that have in fact been cast by any state, as designated by those authorized to do so under state law.
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To take action otherwise – that is, to unconstitutionally insert Congress into the center of the presidential election process – would amount to stealing power from the people and the states. It would, in effect, replace the electoral college with Congress, and in so doing strengthen the efforts of those on the left who are determined to eliminate it or render it irrelevant.
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From a purely partisan perspective, Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They have therefore depended on the electoral college for nearly all presidential victories in the last generation. If we perpetuate the notion that Congress may disregard certified electoral votes—based solely on its own assessment that one or more states mishandled the presidential election—we will be delegitimizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.
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Admitting, out loud, that they can't win the WH without the EC. The very best case for eliminating the EC - to get rid of these disgusting, lying, good for nothing clowns, like DiaperDon, for good.
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01-05-2021, 02:58 PM
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Senate GOP opposition grows to Electoral College challenge
The effort to overturn DiaperDon's loss may be defeated overwhelmingly while fracturing his party.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...allenge-455104
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The Senate Republicans opposed to certifying President-elect Joe Biden’s win are heading toward a hefty defeat on Wednesday. The only remaining question is this: how badly do they lose?
Just 11 GOP senators have signaled support for separate efforts led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Josh Hawley (R-Mo.). That makes 13 supporters — and many more have come out swinging against it.
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Oops.
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01-05-2021, 04:52 PM
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Police say protest outside Hawley home not 'that big of a deal'
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...ceful-politics
Awwww. Poor little whiney-ass snowflake.
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01-05-2021, 07:37 PM
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To watch the coverage on Faux News* you'd have though ANTIFA was banging on the door with pitch forks and torches. No mention at all about the response of the local constabulary or the protesters peacefully leaving without issue.
* once a month I do watch it for about as much as I can take. Usually that's about a minute or less.
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