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08-03-2016, 05:02 PM
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Exonerate: 1. (especially of an official body) absolve (someone) from blame for a fault or wrongdoing, especially after due consideration of the case.
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She was absolved? Must have missed the news report. 
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The FBI said that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges.
Hmmm, reasonableness...what a concept. You should try it sometime, Raj.
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08-03-2016, 05:02 PM
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Friedman has a good take on what he believes should be Hillary's economic message (for a moderate such as myself, anyway).
If there is one thing that is not going to revive growth right now, it is an anti-trade, regulatory heavy, so************************t-lite agenda the Democratic Party has drifted to under the sway of Bernie Sanders. So************************m is the greatest system ever invented for making people equally poor. Capitalism makes people unequally rich, but I would much rather grow our pie bigger and faster and better adjust the slices than redivide a shrinking one...
...I get that she had to lean toward Sanders and his voters to win the nomination; their concerns with fairness and inequality are honorable. But those concerns can be addressed only with economic growth; the rising anti-immigration sentiments in the country can be defused only with economic growth; the general anxiety feeding Trumpism can be eased only with economic growth.
Sanders had no plan whatsoever for growth. Trump doesn’t, either, but he can fake it. It’s time that Hillary pivoted. The country today doesn’t need the first female president. It needs the first president in a long time who can govern with a center-left, center-right coalition, and actually end the gridlock on fiscal policy in a smart way.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/op...trump-out.html
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I think we need someone who can just get the system working and perhaps unlock the gridlock that has been going on for 6 years. Sort of get things back to normal. Even if a few compromises have to be made. I would happy for a nice big good old fashion infrastructure program that Republicans used to like and some decent Supreme Court appointees.
Protectionism would kill us. Trump was talking about a 35 percent tariff on cars made in other countries that are sold here. Well the domestic automakers do that. All of a sudden a Ford cost $5000 dollars more?
That would hurt us bad.
She might have to trade something to the GOP for an increase in the minimum wage or on immigration. That is how it works.
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08-03-2016, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
I think we need someone who can just get the system working and perhaps unlock the gridlock that has been going on for 6 years. Sort of get things back to normal. Even if a few compromises have to be made. I would happy for a nice big good old fashion infrastructure program that Republicans used to like and some decent Supreme Court appointees.
Protectionism would kill us. Trump was talking about a 35 percent tariff on cars made in other countries that are sold here. Well the domestic automakers do that. All of a sudden a Ford cost $5000 dollars more?
That would hurt us bad.
She might have to trade something to the GOP for an increase in the minimum wage or on immigration. That is how it works.
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The GOP has been stonewalling Obama, and they would stonewall her. They have done demonizing propaganda on her to the point that their constituents think it's possible,at least, that she is in league with the devil--literally. I'm not feeling real good about a lot getting done through compromise for a while.
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08-03-2016, 06:15 PM
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The FBI said that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges.
Hmmm, reasonableness...what a concept. You should try it sometime, Raj. 
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So she did not do anything illegal or criminal?
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08-03-2016, 06:34 PM
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So she did not do anything illegal or criminal?
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The answer to your question is no. She may or may not have disregarded an internal State department directive but that's about it.
If you've got something on her, you really should do your civic duty and drop a dime on her, Raj.
Toot sweet. Get on it, skippy.
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08-03-2016, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Actually, I've expanded my agenda to wanting to destroy both parties
We need a political revolution in this country.
My first choice would have been to have it by electing Bernie.
But that's gone by the boards.
So now it's up to Trump.
It won't be pretty, but IMO it's the only option left to to bring about the revolution.
Hillary is just more of the same shit, different day.
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I completely understand.
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08-04-2016, 08:05 AM
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It's called Democracy Dude.
If you don't like it, getcher ass to North Korea.
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So Meg Whitman changing her vote is undemocratic? Whose dictionary are you using?
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08-04-2016, 08:15 AM
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So Meg Whitman changing her vote is undemocratic? Whose dictionary are you using?
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08-04-2016, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
The GOP has been stonewalling Obama, and they would stonewall her. They have done demonizing propaganda on her to the point that their constituents think it's possible,at least, that she is in league with the devil--literally. I'm not feeling real good about a lot getting done through compromise for a while.
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I am always optimistic.
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08-05-2016, 09:09 AM
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So Meg Whitman changing her vote is undemocratic? Whose dictionary are you using?
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You need to read the post that I was responding to again.
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