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07-19-2013, 02:15 AM
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Florida ain't a place to visit anymore..
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Embarrassment of the country since 2000. Sorry Floridians.
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And, there is the true root cause. This case cast a spotlight on what happens when some self-important guardian of the neighborhhood feels he has a license to play judge, jury and executioner. Sooner or later innocent people start getting killed.
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Bam - you just nailed it Dave.
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07-19-2013, 02:22 AM
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well noon when you are merely repeating slogans it gets difficult to keep track. Regardless all this is amusing in one sense as i watch the children trying to teach this old man how to suck eggs. 
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07-19-2013, 03:43 AM
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Next time yall go to FL, stop every person you come to on the street and ask them if they always lived there. And if they say no then ask them what state they came from. You'd be amazed how many folks moved there from states that aren't red, but wanted out of the cold.
Savannah, Ga. Not as many original southerners still live there as one might think. Many from the north east coast now make up a good part Savanna's population. It isn't nearly as people friendly as it was when I was born there. Right now, a good portion of the people where I live are about as friendly as the people in Savannah were in the early 70's. Atlanta has it's share of people that moved there from another state as well. It isn't fair to push blame on just southern folk.
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07-19-2013, 04:40 AM
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I don't believe there's anything inherently bad about southern folks. There's just a long history going back many decades of intense racial prejudice that some there indulge in. I don't know which part of Tennessee you're in but my experience there was far from pleasant and I was just a white boy with long hair at the time, Knoxville to be exact. Memphis is a whole 'nuther ballgame. I wouldn't mind visiting there again as long as it wasn't summertime. In fact, I would as soon hang out in the Mojave desert than in the sauna of the south. Too much humidity for this Californian.
Zimmerman's father is a retired Florida judge and if I remember correctly his son George was born and raised in Florida, his mama is from south America.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason he wasn't charged at all (until the pressure was put on) was for that very thing. His daddy was a local judge and the Sanford PD knew that. That's probably why he was so bold about carrying a loaded 9mm pistol to a fist fight and also why he disregarded that dispatchers admonition not to follow the kid. He didn't like or respect the local police.
He most certainly racially profiled young Mr. Martin ("these assholes always get away") and then never identified himself as the 'Neighborhood Watch' guy on patrol. Those simple words, "I'm the Neighborhood Watch" from George Zimmerman would have ended any altercation at any time. All his screaming and wailing for help? (If you can believe his family)and he couldn't utter that simple phrase?
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07-19-2013, 05:09 AM
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Sounds strange, but middle TN differs greatly from west TN, and differs some from east TN as well. Memphis, only place in TN I was robbed. My brother inlaw just two years ago was sent to Memphis to do survey of land for a company to build houses on, and they had to put two people back to back for their own safety. One stood guard while the other bent over to look through the survey equipment. East TN, it isn't about being robbed. It's about being deeper in the hills. They get alot more transplants than they seem to care for and aren't as friendly as the middle state. Plus the history of TN goes way back divided in three parts. Oh I'm an outsider in middle TN too, but just not as bad. I've been here many years and know so very many in three counties. Isn't hard to do living miles between two towns.. one town being less than 360 folks and the other being just under 800 which is the same population as 40 years ago.
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07-19-2013, 05:14 AM
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I guess the biggest drawback of living here is business. If you wish to start a business, you best make sure the locals will come to you first, or else you'll go under fast as you opened. They are firm set in their ways about supporting the family business that was there first.
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07-19-2013, 01:29 PM
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Sounds strange, but middle TN differs greatly from west TN, and differs some from east TN as well. Memphis, only place in TN I was robbed. My brother inlaw just two years ago was sent to Memphis to do survey of land for a company to build houses on, and they had to put two people back to back for their own safety. One stood guard while the other bent over to look through the survey equipment. East TN, it isn't about being robbed. It's about being deeper in the hills. They get alot more transplants than they seem to care for and aren't as friendly as the middle state. Plus the history of TN goes way back divided in three parts. Oh I'm an outsider in middle TN too, but just not as bad. I've been here many years and know so very many in three counties. Isn't hard to do living miles between two towns.. one town being less than 360 folks and the other being just under 800 which is the same population as 40 years ago.
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I like the fact that the hillfolk in Tennessee were just as apt to shoot a Johnny Reb as a damn Yankee during that war. Kinda West Virginian if you ask me...
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07-19-2013, 01:31 PM
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I guess the biggest drawback of living here is business. If you wish to start a business, you best make sure the locals will come to you first, or else you'll go under fast as you opened. They are firm set in their ways about supporting the family business that was there first.
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That's why my damn Yankee brothers married into the clans.  Those Tennessee gals are sweet.
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07-19-2013, 03:40 PM
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Zimmerman's father is a retired Florida judge and if I remember correctly his son George was born and raised in Florida, his mama is from south America.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason he wasn't charged at all (until the pressure was put on) was for that very thing. His daddy was a local judge and the Sanford PD knew that. That's probably why he was so bold about carrying a loaded 9mm pistol to a fist fight and also why he disregarded that dispatchers admonition not to follow the kid. He didn't like or respect the local police.
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Bingo...they were giving him the "one of us treatment" or for some reason not treating him the way they would if he had been black or perhaps someone they did not know. If they did know his dad was a retired judge, then they knew Zimmerman well enough to show prejudice in his favor. There is just something not right about this case. An understatement for sure.
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07-19-2013, 03:45 PM
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I used to go to Brighton Tennesee when I was a kid to visit my grandparents. A small one-light rural town.
My maternal grandfather (he was actually my mom's stepfather but I was named after him since his last name was Robbins) would drive me around in this old El Camino and was a very fast driver. He loved guns...he sold them out of his garage...he had pistols, small Saturday night specials and rifles. He had a holstered one in the Camino right next to the steering column on the left side near the driver's door. But he was very smart and hard working...I think of all the people in my family that I have ever known he got the most respect. He had come to Ohio when Ford opened an assembly plant but moved back to Tennesee when he retired.
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