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Old 10-31-2015, 09:28 AM
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I don't fire anyone - I can't afford to. It is hard enough finding anyone who wants to work.

Also, a bit off topic and veering into "the state of education territory" - I recently ran an ad for prospective employees; never had to before because I usually hire by referral. Had a lot of my kids graduating college, so need replacements.

I'm not hiring people to build atom bombs - just park cars, don't wreck, and be friendly.
I am prob. the best boss in the world - I basically let them write their own schedule - as long as the shifts are covered it's all good.

The applications I have received this week are horrible - 300 of them - I'm not looking for nuclear physicists, but the ability to spell, form a complete sentence, include your last name, etc. are things I would like to see.

I'm not seeing them.
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:37 AM
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If it comes down to lying or having your family go hungry, who can blame them?

Shit, I'd lie like a rug.
I would as well. In fact I have and continue to lie whenever it's necessary and prudent to do so, to keep my job. Once an employer lies to me, I see no reason why it isn't fair turnabout to lie back.
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:47 AM
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I don't fire anyone - I can't afford to. It is hard enough finding anyone who wants to work.

Also, a bit off topic and veering into "the state of education territory" - I recently ran an ad for prospective employees; never had to before because I usually hire by referral. Had a lot of my kids graduating college, so need replacements.

I'm not hiring people to build atom bombs - just park cars, don't wreck, and be friendly.
I am prob. the best boss in the world - I basically let them write their own schedule - as long as the shifts are covered it's all good.

The applications I have received this week are horrible - 300 of them - I'm not looking for nuclear physicists, but the ability to spell, form a complete sentence, include your last name, etc. are things I would like to see.

I'm not seeing them.
I hear ya. Lord knows I really don't "want" to work, but I have to. But, when I am at work, I believe I should hold up my end of the deal. However, that doesn't mean I will bust ass for anyone who doesn't hold up their end of the deal. If an employer starts reneging on his promises, I will start reneging on mine, as I start looking for another job.

Lazy, scheming and lying ass employers should always get what they have coming, even when they don't like it. Checks and balances, don't ya know.........

It's why they hate Unions.

See how that works?
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Old 10-31-2015, 09:53 AM
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I am prob actually the worst person to be a boss - I am not a disciplinarian and I am up front. I hire kids I like, and I usually like kids who have their shit somewhat together, so it never really morphs into that "employee - boss" dynamic.

I think that is the key - hire good people and you don't have to be "a boss."

The schedule is a headache because I really let them work when they want, but to me that is a small price to pay for having people who enjoy being there and have fun.
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I am prob actually the worst person to be a boss - I am not a disciplinarian and I am up front. I hire kids I like, and I usually like kids who have their shit somewhat together, so it never really morphs into that "employee - boss" dynamic.

I think that is the key - hire good people and you don't have to be "a boss."

The schedule is a headache because I really let them work when they want, but to me that is a small price to pay for having people who enjoy being there and have fun.
True dat.

And I never, ever let someone else drive/park my car. Except for the garage that services it......and close relatives. And, I am always with them when they do.
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I've been lucky - 2 minor scuffs in 3 years - but, that's why we have insurance.

But I don't let anyone drive my car, either.
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But I am either overworked or just getting old.

Last night after an event, I drove downtown to check on our restaurant locations. I pull up to our busiest spot and my two guys are out there in the lot wearing football helmets and tossing the pigskin.

"WTF are you two doing?" Get that silly shit off your heads."

"You said it was cool to dress up for Halloween!"

"Oh, yeah. Halloween. Sorry."

Derp.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:17 AM
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Cats, you might try going back to what as worked for you for recruitment. Get referrals. Calling cold to 'possible referrers' is more likely to work than wading through unscreened applications. Call teachers, coaches, anyone who works with young people. Offer a finder's fee if you hire. I'm thinking $20.00, so it should probably be $50.00 nowadays. But that's not the main motivator. Just sell the job a little, tell them what a cool boss you are. People love to hook kids they like up with good jobs.

BTW, get each person you get to talk to to refer another referrer, too.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:20 AM
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Cats, you might try going back to what as worked for you for recruitment. Get referrals. Calling cold to 'possible referrers' is more likely to work than wading through unscreened applications. Call teachers, coaches, anyone who works with young people. Offer a finder's fee if you hire. I'm thinking $20.00, so it should probably be $50.00 nowadays. But that's not the main motivator. Just sell the job a little, tell them what a cool boss you are. People love to hook kids they like up with good jobs.
Sometimes it's a last minute business - I have always used referrals and will continue - we just got a buttload of event business short notice and I need people quick.

I hate running ads.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:30 AM
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I don't fire anyone - I can't afford to. It is hard enough finding anyone who wants to work.

Also, a bit off topic and veering into "the state of education territory" - I recently ran an ad for prospective employees; never had to before because I usually hire by referral. Had a lot of my kids graduating college, so need replacements.

I'm not hiring people to build atom bombs - just park cars, don't wreck, and be friendly.
I am prob. the best boss in the world - I basically let them write their own schedule - as long as the shifts are covered it's all good.

The applications I have received this week are horrible - 300 of them - I'm not looking for nuclear physicists, but the ability to spell, form a complete sentence, include your last name, etc. are things I would like to see.

I'm not seeing them.
English spelling has taken a serious nosedive lately... or else the internet has given us an opportunity to see how bad it always was. Another thing I've noticed is a significant decline in the grammar used in print media, even in august publications like the New York Times. It seems copy editors no longer know how to edit.
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