Political hypocrisy

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by mpholland

Just another example of hypocrisy that I find around this place. It seems to me that all the people who were so overjoyed with the SCOTUS when they ruled on the ACA are the same people who are now saying how fucked up the SCOTUS is because of the Hobby Lobby case. It reminds me of Thomas Jefferson’s attempting to impeach Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase because Chase disagreed with his politics. If it wasn't for John Q. Adams defending Chase, disagreeing with the President could have become a precedent for impeachment. Jefferson actually tried to market political dissent under high crimes and misdemeanors. Kind of shows you what some of our forefathers really thought of their constitution.

Are you fucken shitin me?

You right wingers have got the market cornered on every kind of hypocrisy there is.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Are you fucken shitin me?

You right wingers have got the market cornered on every kind of hypocrisy there is.

Dude, not everyone who points out inconsistencies within the liberal point of view is a right-winger. If you look at the body of work by mpholland, you would see a significant tilt toward - balance.

Regards,

D-Ray

[icenine]

Balance does not necessarily mean good or positive.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by icenine

Balance does not necessarily mean good or positive.

I have observed generally reasonable positions, some of which I agree with and others I do not. My point is that there are positions other than liberal or right-winger.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Dude, not everyone who points out inconsistencies within the liberal point of view is a right-winger. If you look at the body of work by mpholland, you would see a significant tilt toward - balance.

Regards,

D-Ray

Yup, MP is a center right guy. While I see his choice of the word "hypocrisy" a bit hyperbolic, he's no rightwinger.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by icenine

Balance does not necessarily mean good or positive.

I interpret the word balance to mean compromise. Truth (understanding) is in the middle, not at the extremes. One side cannot be always right or wrong. So if there is no compromise, there is no progress as witnessed in the past few years of governance. So a sense of balance is always good.

[icenine]

Depends on what is being balanced. One could say that Stanley Baldiwn and Neville Chamberlain were more balanced in their approach to the growing German threat in Europe during the 1930s while Churchill was more extreme in his lonely opposition. However we know what happened.

American are balanced about guns for the most part, despite all of the rhetoric. Yet we know the next massacre is just around the corner.

To me being balanced can mean not standing up for the right cause when necessary.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by icenine

Depends on what is being balanced. One could say that Stanley Baldiwn and Neville Chamberlain were more balanced in their approach to the growing German threat in Europe during the 1930s while Churchill was more extreme in his lonely opposition. However we know what happened.

American are balanced about guns for the most part, despite all of the rhetoric. Yet we know the next massacre is just around the corner.

To me being balanced can mean not standing up for the right cause when necessary.

Chamberlain attitude was not a balanced one. It was extreme weakness.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Chamberlain attitude was not a balanced one. It was extreme weakness.

In general it reflected the pre-1939 Tory policy torward Germany before the Anschluss. I am sure many thought it was a balanced compromise before they were double crossed.



Currently in the USA the opposition to the administration is both extreme and unmoving in the House to the point that the country is suffering. To be balanced and compromising toward a party that desires nor can countenance either would be simply wrong.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Yup, MP is a center right guy. While I see his choice of the word "hypocrisy" a bit hyperbolic, he's no rightwinger.

What passes for left in the US is center right just about anywhere else in the world. So if MP is in the center by US standards he's a right winger.