Hillary Down In The Dumps: Is Clinton About To Drop Out Of 2016 Race? - Page 3

donquixote99 · #21 07-01-2014, 11:02 PM

Legit questions? We don't want legit questions!

merrylander · #22 07-02-2014, 05:45 AM

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What would be the political calculus of Clinton waiting this long to drop out?

For the record I would like to see some of fresh progressive voices coming into their own too but then there's the simple fact that you can't lead if you don't win.

Unless we change the makeup of the House no one can lead. With Bonehead and Company it is like herding cats.

Ike Bana · #23 07-02-2014, 06:51 AM

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BH, although not perhaps in the analysis, we agree in the conclusion. I am one of those awaiting a new liberal voice. And I'm sure you are too.

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D-Ray

Cuomo? I don't know that much about him. His old man is quite a guy.

Ike Bana · #24 07-02-2014, 06:56 AM

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Unless we change the makeup of the House no one can lead. With Bonehead and Company it is like herding cats.

The right is constantly pissing and moaning about an "imperial presidency" and Obama exceeding his powers. Well...somebody's gotta do something when this Congress hasn't managed to pass a single piece of major legilsation.

d-ray657 · #25 07-02-2014, 07:02 AM

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Cuomo? I don't know that much about him. His old man is quite a guy.

Mario definitely made one of the best convention speeches I ever heard. I think it was in '76. Andrew seems a bit more buttoned down.

I really really like Elizabeth Warren, but I wonder about her experience.

Regards,

D-Ray

merrylander · #26 07-02-2014, 07:14 AM

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Mario definitely made one of the best convention speeches I ever heard. I think it was in '76. Andrew seems a bit more buttoned down.

I really really like Elizabeth Warren, but I wonder about her experience.

Regards,

D-Ray

There is Martin O'Malley, he has done a good job here in Maryland.

Ike Bana · #27 07-02-2014, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

Mario definitely made one of the best convention speeches I ever heard. I think it was in '76. Andrew seems a bit more buttoned down.

I really really like Elizabeth Warren, but I wonder about her experience.

Regards,

D-Ray

IMHO the concept of "experience" as a prerequisite for that job doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. They say a state governor's job is the best preparation for being president...as opposed to being a member of the Congress. But I suspect there's no adequate preparation for the position. One wins the position and one can either do it, or they can't. There are lots of different organizational ways to do the job, lots of styles, different skill sets. But I don't believe there's any way to know who will be better or worse until they get into the job...if "better or worse" is even a legitimate criteria.

finnbow · #28 07-02-2014, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana

IMHO the concept of "experience" as a prerequisite for that job doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. They say a state governor's job is the best preparation for being president...as opposed to being a member of the Congress. But I suspect there's no adequate preparation for the position. One wins the position and one can either do it, or they can't. There are lots of different organizational ways to do the job, lots of styles, different skill sets. But I don't believe there's any way to know who will be better or worse until they get into the job...if "better or worse" is even a legitimate criteria.

However, the intangible trait of leadership is of paramount importance and previous leadership experience is perhaps the only indicator of whether a candidate has what it takes. Unfortunately, Obama does not.

HarmanKardon · #29 07-02-2014, 07:49 AM

Miss you Frank...

MikeG22 · #30 07-02-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by d-ray657

Mario definitely made one of the best convention speeches I ever heard. I think it was in '76. Andrew seems a bit more buttoned down.

I really really like Elizabeth Warren, but I wonder about her experience.

Regards,

D-Ray

Andy would be a great president, I mean just look at our NY tax rate. His father F-ed this state and Jr is doing his best to follow in his footsteps. He can't even get along with super liberal DiBlasio.