A question for Republicans

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Rush is just a shock jock. I dont think many republicans even listen to his
rants.

About15 million per week. In the 2008 election, Obama got ~70 million votes and McCain got ~60 million. So, 15 million isn't exactly chump change. Like it or not (I don't) his voice has a large impact. Why else do GOP politicians go back to Rush begging for forgiveness if they say something mildly critical (and truthful) about him.

Back on topic. Another way of stating this question (if I may, not being the OP), is why is it that the Republicans seem happy allowing Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, et al. to be their public face/spokesmen? I think it has to do with the fact that the GOP can hide behind their tasteless, untruthful, but effective messages. Why send out Boehner to stir up the faithful (yawn)when Rush and Co. are so effective at doing it? They can benefit from his propoganda while appearing to take "the high road."

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

* Bush, Florida 2000

No objective observer can dispute that the State of Florida broke the law in the 2000 election. If you doubt this, just look at the coverage in the foreign press. Unlike ours, their media had no reason to sugar coat or conceal the truth.

* Franken in MN

In a race this close there will always be questions. As far as I know, the questions in this race have to do with the decisions of the state regarding the recount. There is no question of an engineered victory for Frankin through purging voter rolls or vote flipping.

* This gal

"This gal" lost. If she's stupid enough to make the statement she is said to have made her loss was well deserved. Her remarks were condemned by both sides.

* Phyllis Kahn calling for 16 yr old's to vote.

A state legislator calling for a legal change in eligibility requirements proves what, exactly?

* All seemingly rejecting required voter ID or calling for it but not getting it done.

The objections to this have to do with the hardship obtaining a photo ID would have on poor and elderly (read Democratic) voters. I have a voter registration card issued by the PRC (People's Republic of California). I had one when I lived in Maryland, in New Jersey and in Virginia. (Can't remember about Colorado.)

* ACORN

The ACORN scandal is bullshit. The cases of fraudulent registrations involving ACORN canvassers were reported to the FEC by ACORN themselves. These were cases of people who were getting paid by the registrant padding out their pay packets with bogus registrants.

Nobody has been able to successfully prosecute ACORN for anything and very few have tried because the value of ACORN is in the suspicions created in the public mind by right wing operatives. Any pursuit of justice would exhonerate ACORN and thus remove the stigma.

Tip of the iceberg and the list goes on and on. Yes, we have problems.

Global climate change has made this into a tiny little iceberg.

To answer the OP's question. I'm much more in tune with the Republican message than what the Dem's have to offer. Keep in mind that I firmly believe the democrat party of today hardly resembles that of my Father's Democrat party.

"IC"! DemocratIC Party! The Democratic Farm Labor Party was allways a little bit of an odd duck. Humphrey and Mondale were a bit of a breed apart.

John

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

RUSH
"the republicans are morons out to cut my social security and they are
the root of all evil and everything thats wrong with this country"
RUSH
"THE DEMOCRATS ARE OUT TO DESTROY THE FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE
IN THIS COUNTRY"

There, now you dont have to listen in today

Thank God and Jack for that! (A bad ripoff of a country music title) Of course I have to worry about tuning in to Rush as much as I have to worry about being attacked by Martians.

Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Global climate change has made this into a tiny little iceberg.

Lmao!!

Pete

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Edited, too rough.

How about this:

From and inconvenient truth to the naked truth.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Writewing]

In short to the original question YES (enough of the time) and I know the Left thinks the Right are all blind followers who follow like Lemmings heading towards the cliff but its not the case atleast for the many folks I know and respect who lean to the Right. I enjoy FOX News and it is far and away my favorite but I dont like everyone and every show on it.
I watch Cavuto, Special Report, Shep, and Bill O..........and my guilty pleasure Red Eye on FOX.
I watch Morning Joe and Hardball on MSNBC, I also watch Meet the Press and FOX News Sunday on the weekends. Thank God for DVR to be able to compress viewing time.
I did work for John McCain up till the Palin pick and I couldnt in good conscience do it anymore and I still dont support her, Rush is Rush and is somebody I agree with 75% of time and the remaining time I think he goes too far.
But the simple fact is the Democratic party has moved so far Left that the majority of the country does not buy into it anymore and the Left will continue to have to deal with election loss if they dont come to terms with that and change course.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Writewing

In short to the original question YES (enough of the time) and I know the Left thinks the Right are all blind followers who follow like Lemmings heading towards the cliff but its not the case atleast for the many folks I know and respect who lean to the Right. I enjoy FOX News and it is far and away my favorite but I dont like everyone and every show on it.
I watch Cavuto, Special Report, Shep, and Bill O..........and my guilty pleasure Red Eye on FOX.
I watch Morning Joe and Hardball on MSNBC, I also watch Meet the Press and FOX News Sunday on the weekends. Thank God for DVR to be able to compress viewing time.
I did work for John McCain up till the Palin pick and I couldnt in good conscience do it anymore and I still dont support her, Rush is Rush and is somebody I agree with 75% of time and the remaining time I think he goes too far.
But the simple fact is the Democratic party has moved so far Left that the majority of the country does not buy into it anymore and the Left will continue to have to deal with election loss if they dont come to terms with that and change course.

Giving credit where credit is due - that is a direct and reasonable answer to a serious question. From my perspective, however, the Democratic party has not been on the left for a long time. Most Democratic office holders were just not quite as right of center as most Republicans.

I had great hopes for an Obama presidency and I am not willing to give up after only one year, but insofar as he quoted the Gospel in his inauguration speech, another quote comes to mind: "So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth." Rev. 3:16

That probably makes me sound like the republicans who put out a 'Loyalty test" earlier, but I think what made the health care bill unpalatable to many was that is was neither fish nor fowl, but hash.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by doucanoe;16612
But the fact is, one thing we know, the American people believe that legal voters should vote and they believe that their right to vote ought to be protected from people that don't have the right to vote.

[...

MATTHEWS: This woman, this candidate of the Democratic Party came out and told Hispanic voters go ahead and vote, you don't need papers. She was encouraging illegal voting right on -- we heard it on the mike.

I don't know about your state but you need to show your voter registration card here and your name better be on the list or you don't vote.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by noonereal

You missed it Rob.

Fox said he was getting a free ride.

Ah well as my taste is not all in my mouth I don't watch FOX.

[doucanoe]

Originally Posted by Boreas

No objective observer can dispute that the State of Florida broke the law in the 2000 election. If you doubt this, just look at the coverage in the foreign press. Unlike ours, their media had no reason to sugar coat or conceal the truth.

Sure there is. The foreign press and foreigners hate Bush, remember. I realize that some view anything "foreign" as progressive and enlightened but I'm not one of them.

Originally Posted by Boreas

In a race this close there will always be questions. As far as I know, the questions in this race have to do with the decisions of the state regarding the recount. There is no question of an engineered victory for Frankin through purging voter rolls or vote flipping.

Not exactly but look into the process. What was counted and what was not. I firmly believe that the one that barked the loudest got this one.

Originally Posted by Boreas

"This gal" lost. If she's stupid enough to make the statement she is said to have made her loss was well deserved. Her remarks were condemned by both sides.

As they should be. I also believe that her public "slip" was because shes a moron and not that her sentiments are not promoted by the same people that condemn it.

Originally Posted by Boreas

A state legislator calling for a legal change in eligibility requirements proves what, exactly?

That she a raving lunatic we have had to listen to for 16 years. She held in high esteem by the Dem's here by the way.

Originally Posted by Boreas

The objections to this have to do with the hardship obtaining a photo ID would have on poor and elderly (read Democratic) voters. I have a voter registration card issued by the PRC (People's Republic of California). I had one when I lived in Maryland, in New Jersey and in Virginia. (Can't remember about Colorado.)

Whatever you say.

Originally Posted by Boreas

The ACORN scandal is bullshit. The cases of fraudulent registrations involving ACORN canvassers were reported to the FEC by ACORN themselves. These were cases of people who were getting paid by the registrant padding out their pay packets with bogus registrants.

Nobody has been able to successfully prosecute ACORN for anything and very few have tried because the value of ACORN is in the suspicions created in the public mind by right wing operatives. Any pursuit of justice would exhonerate ACORN and thus remove the stigma.

I very much disagree with this.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Global climate change has made this into a tiny little iceberg.

Originally Posted by Boreas

"IC"! DemocratIC Party! The Democratic Farm Labor Party was allways a little bit of an odd duck. Humphrey and Mondale were a bit of a breed apart.

John

I liked that duck!


Short answers presented today courtesy a very tired man.
You wear me out John

RC