1.4 Million Out Of Work American Workers Are A Political Football?

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Bell gave me all the training I coukl absorb and in the process identified my talents as an instructor.

A by gone era when a Bell tech travelled first class and eat at the finest restaurant.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

You're the one that is denying history.

The last 40 years of right wing trickle down economics policies have been one of the biggest failures in the history of mankind.

HEAR! HEAR!

(And the most adamantly and feverishly denied failures.)

Dave

[piece-itpete]

here's an interesting article:

I don't know ANYTHING about the author or veracity of data.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...y-edition.html

Pete

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

So, exactly how long should an individual receive unemployment benefits? Unemployment benefits are managed by the Feds and the States in a similar manner to disability coverage. Benefits paid are valued up to a pre-determined amount based on an individuals income, and extend for (until recently) a pre-determined duration.

There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the longer an individual remains unemployed in any capacity, the more harmful it is to the individual. Not only does their productivity / effectiveness decrease, but their bargaining power in the marketplace also decreases. Not to mention the long term damage to self - esteem that comes with being out of work.

So, how long should unemployment benefits reasonably continue? Should there be a point that benefits cease, for the long term good of the individual?

So when did 99 weeks become indefinite unemployment insurance payouts?

You start from a false premise so all the rest is drivel from a HR dude's fevered dream lowered employment costs for a big attaboy from your masters of the universe. You'll have to try a lot harder than the previous bs to convince me that you've got the best interests of workers at heart.

As Rob noted, there are an average three applicants for every job opening. Excuse me if I call bullshit on your diehard assholishness when it comes to being an advocate for the working class. On more than one occasion you've voiced your disdain for organized labor, so you might as well get used to the fact that your opinions are rejected out of hand, Mr. HR dude.

Back on topic, I ask you when did the Republicans start thinking that it's OK to shit on workers actively seeking work? Here's my opinion, it's when they enticed the Ayn Rand worshipping libertarian fools to be their guiding lights. Isn't little Lyin' Ryan & the ferret faced phuck from Virginia their standard bearer these days?

[bobabode]

...to answer your last question Mike, it should continue until the unemployment rate drops substantially. Either though much needed government work programs or your masters of the universe get off their lazy asses and start wanting to make money again instead of hoarding it.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

A by gone era when a Bell tech travelled first class and eat at the finest restaurant.

That was Bell Canada and believe me there was nothing too classy about that Chevy van. That said they are an honest company who's word you can take to the bank.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I've had employers tell me they don't want to spend money on formal traing because, "We pay for someones education, then they leave to go work for someone else. We're not paying to educate our competitors employees."

I never went to work for anyone else for the very simple reason that they treated me honestly and decently. If those employers fear that a trained emplyee would leave then maybe they should take a good look at how they treat their employees. Why leave a job where you are well treated, decently paid and respected for some unknown?

Which, if you think that through, it boils down to greed too. The reason the educated employee leaves, is because the employer offers little or no financial reward at the finish of training........but the competitor does. Funny, how such free market principles are so precious to them.....so long as it works in their favor. If it doesn't, they'd rather have ignorant employees than pay out the money. Which, of course, costs them more in the long run.


Or they expect the schools you and I pay for to turn out robots to meet their specifications rather than upstanding citizens capable of thinking for themselves.

And, I fail to see how that's the employees fault. Or anybodys fault but management, for that matter.

Dave

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[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Like including military/government retirees, the elderly on SS and Medicare and the legitimately disabled in the 47% as if they are all "Cadillac Driving Welfare Queens"?

Dave

This elderly person on SS does not feel the least embarassed as I was given no choice. They said you must pay FICA and if you manage to stay employed for more than 40 weeks we will grant you a stipend. In any case I bring more money into this country than I take out of it.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

You're the one that is denying history.

The last 40 years of right wing trickle down economics policies have been one of the biggest failures in the history of mankind.

The nearest equivalent I can come up with France pre revolution. We all know how that worked out for that condescending bitch Marie Antoinette and her ilk.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Whell, we should just have the Feds hire anyone out of work. Presto, full employment!

Pete

You forgot the smiley, your pastiness.